whether they want to or not is another thing. I very much doubt they will. External power bricks are annoying as fudge, i laughed every time i saw the 360's one. It's just a way of making the console cheaper to manufacture, rather than making a tailored one to fit the console (a la PS3). My PS3 can watch TV already with PlayTV, a small box (made officially by Sony) attached with USB and a TV aerial, supports recording TV directly to the hard drive, and live TV use. Like I said, TV is a non-feature, I've been doing that on my PS3 for 5 odd years. Also, not everyone has blazing-fast internet, so I bet cloud computation as awesome as it sounds (because it really does, providing you have an awesome connection to the internet), is not going to be effectively used on the [b]vast[/i] majority of systems. Plus it'll fragment the platform, with people paying a price graphically or their experience being hindered simply because of their internet connection. A lot of "it looked great in the gameplay video" because they had superfast broadband, and getting home to find their connection can't facilitate the enhanced cloud features, and their game looking 'unfinished' or not as polished because of it. I don't think that's fair in the slightest. I don't understand the appeal of TV when you have to use your existing cable box to do it. Surely you can just change input on your TV? And most cable boxes are DVRs too nowadays. I use my PlayTV box with the PS3 because it won't work anywhere else, designed specifically for the PS3. Why plug another box, which works fine by itself, into the Xbox One? The only difference is that you use the Xbox One controller to change to TV, instead of your TV remote.
Not to mention, NOT EVERYWHERE IS AMERICA. In the UK, not many people use cable TV, it's a relatively new thing here, satellite TV is more the norm. The TV feature, I can see already, is going to get a lot of support in the US, and fall on its face everywhere else. And as far as MS is concerned, if it works in the US, it works everywhere, which just isn't true. Nobody gives a toss about the NFL over here, nor the NBA, or the NHL, or anything like that. Here it's football, football, football (soccer to you), maybe some Formula 1 Racing and rugby.

(24/05/2013 01:03 PM)ProperBritish Wrote:  whether they want to or not is another thing. I very much doubt they will. External power bricks are annoying as fudge, i laughed every time i saw the 360's one. It's just a way of making the console cheaper to manufacture, rather than making a tailored one to fit the console (a la PS3). My PS3 can watch TV already with PlayTV, a small box (made officially by Sony) attached with USB and a TV aerial, supports recording TV directly to the hard drive, and live TV use. Like I said, TV is a non-feature, I've been doing that on my PS3 for 5 odd years. Also, not everyone has blazing-fast internet, so I bet cloud computation as awesome as it sounds (because it really does, providing you have an awesome connection to the internet), is not going to be effectively used on the [b]vast[/i] majority of systems. Plus it'll fragment the platform, with people paying a price graphically or their experience being hindered simply because of their internet connection. A lot of "it looked great in the gameplay video" because they had superfast broadband, and getting home to find their connection can't facilitate the enhanced cloud features, and their game looking 'unfinished' or not as polished because of it. I don't think that's fair in the slightest. I don't understand the appeal of TV when you have to use your existing cable box to do it. Surely you can just change input on your TV? And most cable boxes are DVRs too nowadays. I use my PlayTV box with the PS3 because it won't work anywhere else, designed specifically for the PS3. Why plug another box, which works fine by itself, into the Xbox One? The only difference is that you use the Xbox One controller to change to TV, instead of your TV remote.
Not to mention, NOT EVERYWHERE IS AMERICA. In the UK, not many people use cable TV, it's a relatively new thing here, satellite TV is more the norm. The TV feature, I can see already, is going to get a lot of support in the US, and fall on its face everywhere else. And as far as MS is concerned, if it works in the US, it works everywhere, which just isn't true. Nobody gives a toss about the NFL over here, nor the NBA, or the NHL, or anything like that. Here it's football, football, football (soccer to you), maybe some Formula 1 Racing and rugby.

adding to your point about the tv on ps3 thing PB... to be honest I've never even had a problem with having a sky box (satellite tv in the UK) connected to my tv it's never been in the way at all.. also i guarantee the tv features will be US only so the UK will get spoon out of that feature.. not once in my life has it crossed my mind that i need an "all in one system." granted it was awesome only having one dvd player in my setup and that's been around since ps2 basically. did the original xbox have dvd playback? fudge no.. what i don't get about microsoft is how far behind sony in basic features they are and i will laugh if at any point in that reveal they even mentioned blu ray compatibility because that is also a not-feature seeing as the ps3 has had it for years now. tv is just another hoax feature to market the console to non gamers. hell nintendo have been doing it for years and even sony has done it a little (remember when everyone though playstation home was going to be the best thing ever ) the point is sony have made a far more convincing reveal than microsoft and i can't see myself getting an xbox one... I'll let the pro's give my opinion on this one microsoft :)

(24/05/2013 02:51 PM)Kuu Wrote:  I don't really get the TV rants that go on everywhere (not just here). I mean, who cares? It's not like you MUST use the TV function or you can't play games. It's something that's there, not required. It's nice to have, if you can use it.

It's not like you hate a car because it has the ability to go 150 km/h but you only want to go 120 km/h.


(Side note: it's not just cable boxes, satellite boxes can be used too with additional country support in the future. PlayTV isn't available in the US, so you're contradicting your US/UK argument with support. The US makes them money. They will focus on it. UK/Europe is just a bonus)

personally i think it's more the fact they're using a problem that isn't there in the first place as their main marketing strategy. i don't think having more than one remote has ever been a problem to me but according to xbox i should chuck them all in the fire because waving my hands in the air like an idiot will make things a lot better.. nintendo never sold me with wii motion controls so i doubt microsoft will with kinect to be honest

(24/05/2013 03:03 PM)Kuu Wrote:  

(24/05/2013 02:54 PM)andrewcc Wrote:  personally i think it's more the fact they're using a problem that isn't there in the first place as their main marketing strategy. i don't think having more than one remote has ever been a problem to me but according to xbox i should chuck them all in the fire because waving my hands in the air like an idiot will make things a lot better.. nintendo never sold me with wii motion controls so i doubt microsoft will with kinect to be honest

I guess I see it more of "Hey, it plays games. That's why I bought it. If it can do more, great. If I use it, if I don't, who cares? I can still play the games."

wee'll have to wait till e3 to see what games it has (besides call of fudgeing doggy style)... regardless of the games i was never planning on buying an xbox i just find it funny that microsoft have made themselves a laughing stock and i guess anything that's worth a rant deserves a rant so why not rant about it... to be honest i fully expect sony to fudge up e3 after they revealed all the best stuff about the ps4 it's not gonna change my mind about which console i get

Ps3 gets, and always has gotten way more hate than the 360.

(24/05/2013 07:02 PM)Barcelona Wrote:  Ps3 gets, and always has gotten way more hate than the 360.

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