O'Really

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/hp-sl...-to-webos/

(24/05/2010 05:12 PM)squee666 Wrote:  O'Really

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/hp-sl...-to-webos/

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I'd be very surprised there isn't any other big brand tablet PCs out there.  I mean, they've existed for ages (MS even released one about 15 years ago).

I'm still not sure why you're so absolutely stuck in the mindset that you must avoid smaller companies.  It seems to remind me of people who will always claim a faster CPU is better than a slower one, where in reality, it's more of a price/performance tradeoff. (or maybe that designer A's clothes are better than designer B's cause celebrity X is promoting A)  Similarly, buying most products involve a tradeoff - typically smaller companies' products will be priced cheaper to compensate for the increased amount of risk you take on (assuming the same feature set etc).  There are also various regulations which prevent consumer grade products being absolute poo poo, and you have reviews, warranties etc to back things up.
Personally, I don't really look at brand...

I don't care what people use myself, but try not to get pulled into marketing hype and make good informed decisions :)

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 07:33 PM by ZiNgA BuRgA.)

(24/05/2010 07:32 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  I'd be very surprised there isn't any other big brand tablet PCs out there.  I mean, they've existed for ages (MS even released one about 15 years ago).

I'm still not sure why you're so absolutely stuck in the mindset that you must avoid smaller companies.  It seems to remind me of people who will always claim a faster CPU is better than a slower one, where in reality, it's more of a price/performance tradeoff. (or maybe that designer A's clothes are better than designer B's cause celebrity X is promoting A)  Similarly, buying most products involve a tradeoff - typically smaller companies' products will be priced cheaper to compensate for the increased amount of risk you take on (assuming the same feature set etc).  There are also various regulations which prevent consumer grade products being absolute poo poo, and you have reviews, warranties etc to back things up.
Personally, I don't really look at brand...

I don't care what people use myself, but try not to get pulled into marketing hype and make good informed decisions :)

Well exactly, but I've just had bad experiences with smaller companies and the whole warranty, reviews, and such did not help me; for example, i bought an archos 7 and had to return it because the thing was burning off it's left side; it was amazing with it's 800x600 screen and cortex processor, but the thing had the worst software running on it known to man.

I know i should put function over fame; but at times it's hard to go with a product that has a lot of promise but can't fulfill it because it just wasn't supported well. You see, the ipad is backed by a HUGE jailbreaking/app store community, it's also the reason why people bought the psp, it's because so many people were behind it and since I'm not versed in anyways of customizing my own devices, i need to run with the crowd to get something done right.

It's not like i adore apple, but i do trust them not to make something that blows up in my face; that's why i can trust them with the new tablet sector, it's just that third party companies will just do it wrong one way or another. I guess, i would trust something made by asus or hp, but come on; webOS? I've never used it, but i can't say it'll be SO much better than the iphone OS.

Is it the best choice for a tablet out there? No, it's not; but it's a choice that i know i won't regret later on, I'm not much of a gambler.

P.S. if someone finds a windows-powered tablet, please share, i'd look into it ;)

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(24/05/2010 10:30 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  Well exactly, but I've just had bad experiences with smaller companies and the whole warranty, reviews, and such did not help me; for example, i bought an archos 7 and had to return it because the thing was burning off it's left side; it was amazing with it's 800x600 screen and cortex processor, but the thing had the worst software running on it known to man.

It might be difficult to convince you, but one bad product is unlikely to be the norm.  Say, if a Dell laptop blew up on you (For your information there was a big fiasco on that a few years back), would you stop trusting Dell? (aka biggest computer distributor)
For one thing, companies do an incentive to make good quality products or they'll get slogged with returns.  I personally wouldn't call Archos "small" either...

(24/05/2010 10:30 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  I know i should put function over fame; but at times it's hard to go with a product that has a lot of promise but can't fulfill it because it just wasn't supported well. You see, the ipad is backed by a HUGE jailbreaking/app store community, it's also the reason why people bought the psp, it's because so many people were behind it and since I'm not versed in anyways of customizing my own devices, i need to run with the crowd to get something done right.

If you think that's "huge", what would you call the size of the Windows development community? :P

(24/05/2010 10:30 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  It's not like i adore apple, but i do trust them not to make something that blows up in my face; that's why i can trust them with the new tablet sector, it's just that third party companies will just do it wrong one way or another. I guess, i would trust something made by asus or hp, but come on; webOS? I've never used it, but i can't say it'll be SO much better than the iphone OS.

Dunno.  But don't be the first to jump on these things :P

(24/05/2010 10:30 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  Is it the best choice for a tablet out there? No, it's not; but it's a choice that i know i won't regret later on, I'm not much of a gambler.

Well, you did gamble on the PSP Go... >_>

(24/05/2010 10:44 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  It might be difficult to convince you, but one bad product is unlikely to be the norm.  Say, if a Dell laptop blew up on you (For your information there was a big fiasco on that a few years back), would you stop trusting Dell? (aka biggest computer distributor)
For one thing, companies do an incentive to make good quality products or they'll get slogged with returns.  I personally wouldn't call Archos "small" either...

Yes, that's entirely true, but if there's room for mistakes; the most logical choice would be to choose the one that you know doesn't allow them to happen as much as other companies. I don't think it's about build qualities persay, but just about the community that backs a device, like the xbox 360 or the ipod/iphone scene itself.

Both are weak/unreliable devices, but they just have so much support that they are the ones to bring you the best bang for your buck and not leaving you disappointed.

(24/05/2010 10:44 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  If you think that's "huge", what would you call the size of the Windows development community? :P

Well yes, that's exactly why i use windows and also the reason for the blurb at the bottom in the original post :P.

(24/05/2010 10:44 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  Well, you did gamble on the PSP Go... >_>

exactly why i want to go with something i KNOW will deliver what i expect from it. Ugh, this psp go thing is plaguing my mind everyday D=

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(24/05/2010 10:58 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  Yes, that's entirely true, but if there's room for mistakes; the most logical choice would be to choose the one that you know doesn't allow them to happen as much as other companies.

Not really.  The logical choice is a price/features/quality or value tradeoff.  If you're all about mitigating risk, you buy insurance.  Too expensive?  Then that means you're willing to take on some degree of risk to save money (even insurance doesn't eliminate risk).
(okay, perhaps it might be difficult to find insurance for this case, but that's the idea anyway)

So I take it that you believe the premium paid in price and lack of features is worth the risk trade off for you?
Then you have your decision :)

(24/05/2010 10:58 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  exactly why i want to go with something i KNOW will deliver what i expect from it. Ugh, this psp go thing is plaguing my mind everyday D=

You don't know, that's the thing.  You're not using it now, so you ultimately won't know whether you'll love it or hate it - applies to many things really.  Only buying it will solve the mystery - the most you can do is research to try to align your expectations with what you really get.
Unfortunately a risk you take.  Personally I try to make the best of what I have as I am somewhat risk averse in this regard so I rarely buy new stuff.

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 11:26 PM by ZiNgA BuRgA.)