Well, here goes, following the first stupid purchase of my psp go (which, is actually not all THAT bad); I'm going to consider buying something that A LOT of people are skeptic about. Yeah, the company that makes stuff that is so restricted that it's as if you were putting a huge clamp on your balls; apple's ipad.

Why am i considering it? Well it seems like a semi portable device that can really get some internet/media entertainment on the go; by which i mean sitting on your couch or when you're in your class room. Most people would say, "hey i got a netbook, why the hell would i get an ipad to do the stuff i can do on it?"; if you ask me, i have tried to take a netbook and operate it with cradling + one hand and it's very hard. The point of the ipad (from what i can see) wasn't exactly to replace your netbook, rather it was to enable you get down some information and enjoy your media on the go with a good battery life.

That's the most important thing really, battery life; any netbook wee've seen on the market barely scrimps past 10+ hours, though there are a few; they are still somewhat pricey and still are what they are: a netbook =/= tablet. I have never seen an actual netbook being used easily with the operator standing up; for how small it is, that thing still needs to be settled down on a table to be used properly. That's where I'm going to go with this next, the tablet form factor of the ipad is hands down probably the most handiest way to navigate a web page and media; don't get me wrong, flash is a big loss for the ipad, but i have NEVER ran into a moment where i went "I wish i had flash" when i was on my iphone. In fact, i was somewhat happy because all the flash ad's were disabled so i didn't accidentally click one and go to some annoying page.

I know that the ipad does have iwork, but to be a little critical with this commentary, any productivity is really just going to suck with the ipad. With a tablet, you usually think; "Oh yeah i can use my pen and jot down notes like as if it was paper!" This, also, was a pretty good selling point for me until i recognized, IT'S APPLE, the device can only take input from a finger. Though I'm assuming you can walk around some of these limitations, the whole "tablet for a student" thing just won't work out the way you want it to.

What I'm wanting to use the ipad for is watching videos, reading manga (hurr durr, i like anime), browsing the internet when I'm too lazy to walk and move around with my mouse, and mostly all the other internet guzzling stuff i do from time to time. I think that ipad is not really for getting information down, but to consume it. Virtual textbooks, The internet, etc are all such examples of sources that the ipad can visit and utilize to give you information on a "to go" basis, and which, is a really good thing because I've always wanted some type of virtual textbook instead of lugging my stuff around. The whole onscreen keyboard, iwork, and all the productivity apps are the things that you use when you need to use them, which is when a netbook isn't readily available to you, for what it's worth, the ipad IMO is a great way to retrieve and enjoy information.

What do you guys think? (sorry for my convuluted rant, i know, it's unorganized)

Also, i am aware of other tablets on the market, but i trust apple more than some random third-party; unfortunately I'm not the type to run with the little guy, that's like when i bought my psp go >_>.

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 12:28 PM by Tetris999.)

I can't believe I read all that but I did. [I say that cause I've sadly been following the rants @ comments on Gizmodo and Engadget whenever the damn thing is mentioned]

You sound like the perfect person to own an iPad and everything you've stated seems to be a valid point.

I will say though, you can't fold it, and anything you're looking at, someone else will be if you're walking about.

Sounds like you have money to burn so why not? ¬_¬

Edit: In case you're wondering, the major turn-offs for me were - 1) Lack of front-facing camera, Dell Streak will solve that - 2) Expensive for what it is. It really is. - 3) It lacks Flash. It doesn't matter what arguments you may have, Flash is a very important content platform that's used quite a lot on a normal web-browsing experience. 4) It's not a private device. 5) iTunes and the fact it's computer-dependent whereas a netbook isn't. And iTunes sucks.

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 12:37 PM by S7*.)

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(24/05/2010 12:33 PM)S7* Wrote:  I can't believe I read all that but I did. [I say that cause I've sadly been following the rants @ comments on Gizmodo and Engadget whenever the damn thing is mentioned]

you sound like you hate the thing :P

(24/05/2010 12:33 PM)S7* Wrote:  I will say though, you can't fold it, and anything you're looking at, someone else will be if you're walking about.

Well, that's life; you can't stop people from look at what you're doing, whether it was a psp, netbook, etc.

(24/05/2010 12:33 PM)S7* Wrote:  Sounds like you have money to burn so why not? ¬_¬

I'm not rich, but it doesn't seem all the bad to me, the build qualities of apples products are really good, you have to admit.

But yes, those are valid deal breaking points and as such; i wouldn't recommend the ipad in that situation :)

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Just to throw this out there, this device is not without a computer, it doesn't replace the netbook, laptop, or pc. Rather, it just compliments it to make it better, isn't that the point of technology? It just makes one thing easier and that's all there's to it.

I can live with my textbooks, pens and paper; but i buy this stuff to make life easier and more enjoyable :D .

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 01:03 PM by Tetris999.)

(24/05/2010 01:00 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  Just to throw this out there, this device is not without a computer, it doesn't replace the netbook, laptop, or pc. Rather, it just compliments it to make it better, isn't that the point of technology? It just makes one thing easier and that's all there's to it.

You're contradicting yourself. Does it simplify or compliment? The iPad compliments your pre-existing main machine and wireless internet connection; unless of course you get iPad 3G which is more money burning away... The iPad may simplify certain tasks but it still relies on computers so in that respect, Netbooks are more of a technological evolution by being independent of other machines, simplifying, especially when they come with 3G, nothing else is required to experience what it provides fully.

As for privacy - if I want to, I can shut a netbook. What are you gonna do with an iPad? Put it face-down risking the perfection of its precious bezel? Snap it in half? Point it in another direction? ¬_¬

If I owned an iPad I'd probably never take it out with me. [I'd take a netbook, cause I wouldn't need a computer either]

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TO BE FAIR though Apple does what it does best, by creating the simplest, fool-proof user interface combined with enough speed to make its transitions look ever glorious in their non-Windowsnessness.

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 01:15 PM by S7*.)

(24/05/2010 01:14 PM)S7* Wrote:  You're contradicting yourself. Does it simplify or compliment? The iPad compliments your pre-existing main machine and wireless internet connection; unless of course you get iPad 3G which is more money burning away... The iPad may simplify certain tasks but it still relies on computers so in that respect, Netbooks are more of a technological evolution by being independent of other machines, simplifying, especially when they come with 3G, nothing else is required to experience what it provides fully.

I would say it's a bit of both, simplifying your control over the information being consumed by you and complimenting your computer/other technology by ways of productivity + syncing. I don't think i was contradicting myself, rather i was just making an understatement.

Netbooks are independent, yes, but do they offer the control/form/technology that the ipad offers? No, that's why you're buying the thing, any laptop can do what a netbook does and better, but wee get it for the form the netbook offers and hence; you lose the performance of a stronger machine. It's basically the same thing and they're different in this case, as i said tablet =/= netbook. It's not what you're losing if you use an ipad because no one is telling you JUST TO GET AN IPAD AND NOTHING ELSE!!! That's why I'm just highlighting what the ipad brings to the table and what it can do to compliment and simplify your existing technology.

I'm not looking to do everything with this ipad, nor am i expecting to do everything on a netbook.

(24/05/2010 01:14 PM)S7* Wrote:  As for privacy - if I want to, I can shut a netbook. What are you gonna do with an iPad? Put it face-down risking the perfection of its precious bezel? Snap it in half? Point it in another direction? ¬_¬

I assume you have heard of the button called Lock/Sleep.

(24/05/2010 01:14 PM)S7* Wrote:  If I owned an iPad I'd probably never take it out with me. [I'd take a netbook, cause I wouldn't need a computer either]

If your netbook satisfies you, then there's no point in arguing the validity of what the ipad can do for you. Therefore thumbs up + enjoy :)

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 03:47 PM by Tetris999.)

I don't have a netbook. I'm in the market for a portable device. Right now - a netbook makes more sense to me so I'm waiting out for Ion2 to roll out properly and I'll probably go for it since it has much more to offer for less money. Like you said though, it's meant to compliment so I guess its like an extra filling in a sandwich.. when you've got everything else you may as well just consider an iPad.

I'm more a power user [by nature] anyway.. so naturally the iPad seems like a waste of money.

I can see my mum and my sister loving the iPad. My dad would prefer a machine with Windows though.

I'm not gonna let it slide - the iPad is pricey for what it is and it's amazing that Apple presented the price as a "Wow" factor for its "magical and revolutionary" device. Give me an iPad and I'll probably be happy with it.. hah.

As for Lock/Sleep - TOO MUCH work. A lid is most appropriate for us simple peoples. Hah.

(This post was last modified: 24/05/2010 05:04 PM by S7*.)

what about the hp slate

see how that goes first

(24/05/2010 04:58 PM)squee666 Wrote:  what about the hp slate

see how that goes first

It's been canned. Keep up to date.

The project has been restarted under "HP Hurricane" and indications already say that it'll be running their freshly acquired webOS.