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PSPkiller · 25/06/2008 07:01 AM

SchmilK Wrote:screw that processor! Get this, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819115037

the newer E8000 series use the 45nm technology, so they run cooler. meaning you can overclock the spoon out of them. I've seen 4.6ghz pumped out of a 3ghz E8400 with a decent air cooler. i wonder what's possible with a water cooling setup and a beefy enough mobo?

demonchild Wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...401+-+500W

But eff it, I went to down to a Core Duo as SchMilk suggested.

better psu, much better. i had a 370watt psu in my computer and that struggled to run a pentium 4 HT 3ghz, a dvd burner, 3 hdd's, an olde GPU, an olde sound card and a shedload of fans. so, last weekend i added a second psu at the bottom of the case (i 'borrowed' it from an old broken computer. 250watt) and use it to power the dvd burner and 2 of the hdd's and most of the fans. its triggered by a relay that switches on the second psu when it detecs power coming from the original psu.

if i had some cash i would have bought a new, more powerful psu rather than shoehorning a second one in, but I'm skint, got all the parts for free and competent in basic electronics

SchmilK · 25/06/2008 07:02 AM

psu are important..here is a much better product

(for your information..ive custom built 10 computers in the past 3 months for work so I've been looking at parts and prices alot lately and compariing perofrmace of the q6600 (wee have 3 of them) and the e6800 and the new e8400)  right now im doing an asus p7s with dual xeon 3.2ghz, 6x750 and 2x80 for boot drives.

That's the other thing buy  two of these and raid0 them from the mother board for your windows install

THAT will give you LOADS of speediness!!!  That's how i setup all computers, then that 500gb for data storage.

oh...that's a pretty ugly motherboard :(  microatx are very slow :(  THis would be a better performer for same the price  It won't do nvidia sli, but it does radeon crossfire (i recently gave up on nvidia chips after having sli 6800gtx, then sli 7800gtx then a single 8800 640mb gts...now i have 2x 512mb radeon 3850 that is playing everything at 1680x1050 very nicely in vista 64.  And radeon seems to have a much more colorful display when gaming compared ot the geforce cards

And look, you can have a kick donkey hackintosh if you please ;)  You should score on xbench over 200!!!  New 2.4ghz macbook pro will only score a 130!  And a dual dualcore 2.2ghz scores a 140!  So there you go!!

Vegetano1 · 25/06/2008 07:06 AM

That will do,.!! O_O

the phunny thing is,. in about 6 month's you will only pay half for whot you just bought now,. ;p

i always try to find the stuff that's not that expensive but yet fast enough for me to be satisfied,. ;p

roberth · 25/06/2008 07:17 AM

yeah, but if you chose up to date parts they still work when stuff twice the price exists

SchmilK · 25/06/2008 07:20 AM

Vegetano1 Wrote:That will do,.!! O_O

the phunny thing is,. in about 6 month's you will only pay half for whot you just bought now,. ;p

i always try to find the stuff that's not that expensive but yet fast enough for me to be satisfied,. ;p

That is true..but at the same time in 6 months he can buy some PC8500 ram, a nice water cooler and push the 3.0ghz to the heaven sent 4.20ghz with very little effort!!

demonchild · 25/06/2008 07:23 AM

SchmilK Wrote:
Vegetano1 Wrote:That will do,.!! O_O

the phunny thing is,. in about 6 month's you will only pay half for whot you just bought now,. ;p

i always try to find the stuff that's not that expensive but yet fast enough for me to be satisfied,. ;p

That is true..but at the same time in 6 months he can buy some PC8500 ram, a nice water cooler and push the 3.0ghz to the heaven sent 4.20ghz with very little effort!!

Ok. I swapped out the CPU and PSU for SchMilk's suggestions. Still thinking about the graphics card.

@SchMilk - How slower are MATX's from ATX's? And with the PSU, wouldn't I need to find a case that has a fan space on the top?

SchmilK · 25/06/2008 07:33 AM

LOL i never looked at your case to see your making a lunchbox! I thought you did the micro-atx because of the price, in that case i doubt that psu i listed is going to work :(

I made 3 lunchbox computers here and i don't like them so i can't give recommendations on those kind of parts :(

but the same cpu/memory/video card going from an asus p5b-vm-do ( wee got that board to make a portable Unreal 3 Engine workstation for an xbox360 game development) then moving up to a p5k doing a Cinema 4d animation render (not releated to the game development, wee just repurposed the computer because that project was over and wee needed another render computer) went from taking 4 hours and 30 some minutes down to 3 hours and 10 minutes!! That is ONLY from changing the motherboard!!!

demonchild · 25/06/2008 07:38 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811108081

Here take a look at the case I picked out. (I suck at these as well) I just try.. lol.

SchmilK · 25/06/2008 07:42 AM

That case will work, and it has big fat fans all over so they won't be as loud as most 80mm so you have great cooling and low noise :)

I never use the power supplies that come with the case.

You can either find a case that has a whole on the top above the power supply (though i have not seen one, nor have i realy looked) but otherwise you just mount the psu with the fan pointing down so it draws the air from below, otherwise it will heat up from the fan being almost flush with the top...or you can hav fun with a dremel and make your own hole :D but that may not turn out very nice :(

Im a big fan of this case for its price, quality, and cooling.

demonchild · 25/06/2008 08:05 AM

SchmilK Wrote:That case will work, and it has big fat fans all over so they won't be as loud as most 80mm so you have great cooling and low noise :)

I never use the power supplies that come with the case.

You can either find a case that has a whole on the top above the power supply (though i have not seen one, nor have i realy looked) but otherwise you just mount the psu with the fan pointing down so it draws the air from below, otherwise it will heat up from the fan being almost flush with the top...or you can hav fun with a dremel and make your own hole :D but that may not turn out very nice :(

Im a big fan of this case for its price, quality, and cooling.

You mean mount the fan upside down? lol. Meh, I'll just go get a regular fan..

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