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(18/07/2012 02:22 PM)Tetris999 Wrote:  Agreed it was odd and I probably didn't know for sure if they were women or not, but the point is that the stereotype that girls can't be as good as gamers as males (or just the fact that the sex matters?) does exist in some peoples minds. This is not restricted to this example as I have run across countless of times where a girl usually says " well whatever, I'm a girl so winning against me doesn't matter/don't expect me to play well/whatever" (it was while playing super smash bros at a friends house).

Girls like that were probably never serious about gaming anyway.  And have probably only started playing a game because of their brother or boyfriend, but never really had an interest in games in general.  Basically, they aren't gamers to begin with, so of course they are going to say that.

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^ That's what I was thinking at first but I didn't think that there were "non-serious players of Starcraft 2", so I stand corrected, but that there could be a team of "non-serious" players - let alone female ones - just seems really, really odd.
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Oh, I was talking about the girl playing Super Smash Bros. lol.  As for the Starcraft 2 players, I have no idea with what's going on with them :/

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Same thing goes really - you'd only use such an excuse if you weren't taking the game seriously.
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Ah, you're right.  I don't know what they were playing for, but they certainly weren't playing to win, if that's their excuse.

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RE: Gamers Against Bigotry
I'm one of these trolls Erk
my entire group of friends is...

I have a strong belief that if you take anything on the internet seriously enough to kill yourself
you were unfit to survive by natural selection and deserved to die...

I'm also a developer
albeit, not a famous one or anything but still one
and one who doesn't agree


Second of all
What are the options?

Option A. You march on the devs and they refuse so you... never play video games again?
Yeah right, It is proven that video games are addictive. It's not like you're just magically going to stop playing them because they won't punish "so and so" for "being mean to me"

Option B. Some devs decide to implement this, some gamers don't play those games.

Option C. Devs implement this. Lose the half of the community that doesn't support this

I like options. And much like people have the option and right to harass and abuse other players, if players get too upset they have the option and the right to ignore these people. My personal favorite game for this is Spiral Knights, because upon trying to report a player for harassment it tells you to get the fudge over it and ignore them instead

I feel like initiatives like this are brought forth by powerless people who are butthurt by other players and wish to fake a sense of power to enact justice with
Sort of like how powerless individual players often claim how they will get a player eXx1l3d by reporting them
It's like saying
<Insert Game Company Here> I am butthurt at <Insert Gamer Name Here> please enact revenge for me...

TL;DR

It's childish and stupid on both sides. There is no excuse or way around it. Players should be obligated to block players who hurt their feelings just as much as players should be obligated not to hurt others' feelings to begin with.

That is and will remain my opinion for the time being



On a side note...
I wonder how many petition signers are butthurt baddie gamers...



And a final thought...

Wee get enough of the whole, everyone is a winner
Let's all be magical happy friends in real life
While there is often effort to make us realize that our online action's have consequence
perhaps the people who think as such should not be allowed on the internet to begin with
Reality is reality, the internet is not
as long as they never mix, there are no problems...
I suppose the problem would be that they can't, or that they must because one's existence is within the other by nature

I find that the internet is a great place to express otherwise harmful ill intent.


on top of this if I want to say "You fudgeing towel headed niggery jew faced bastard" I have a right via freedom of speech. I would like to retain this right no matter how serious or joking I am.
This falls back into my prejudice against racism idea though

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To be honest, I've pretty much never personally seen people harassing others in games because they're girls.

80% of the time it's a team (team vs team) game and people shit talk some member of their own team for performing under-par, especially if that person is critical to the team loosing.  Like if you're playing DotA for example, and you're 0/15  (in which case it's probably better playing with 1 less player than having you in the team), I think it's almost certain at least one person on your team is going to rage at you.  Which makes it sort of hard for beginners I guess.

People don't shit talk others in 1v1 games much because when you win you're generally satisfied with the win, and when you loose, it's your own fault and not someone else's, so that keeps people quiet as well (besides, when you lost and you try to attack the person who won, you're clearly extremely butthurt you're in no position to attack the person who won, you'll only loose the argument as well because the other person will just leverage the fact that they won).

I mean there are cases of true arseholes that need to be banned (like my friend lol, he's a nice guy in real life, but in games he's like the biggest arsehole ever), but most of the time it can be solved by you not being bad at the game.
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RE: Gamers Against Bigotry
(18/07/2012 06:06 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  I have a strong belief that if you take anything on the internet seriously enough to kill yourself
you were unfit to survive by natural selection and deserved to die...

I agree with this.

Ever heard of kicking people out? I'm sure features like this exist nowadays whenever you create a room. At least for Blazblue it does.(which is pretty much the only online game I play)


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