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S7* · 01/10/2010 05:00 AM

(01/10/2010 04:57 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:
(01/10/2010 03:59 AM)Assassinator Wrote: Just leave, go to somewhere where absolutely noone knows you, like Australia, and start over again. Better than being dead at least.
Not necessarily an easy task for a college student, and what's stopping the same thing happening again?

Learning from mistakes of the past? I hope that would be the case anyway because otherwise wee really would be dealing with an idiot :P

ZiNgA BuRgA · 01/10/2010 05:06 AM

(01/10/2010 05:00 AM)S7* Wrote: Learning from mistakes of the past? I hope that would be the case anyway because otherwise wee really would be dealing with an idiot :P

Well, I guess I don't really know how others found out about their relationship in the first place. In some cases, it may be difficult to prevent others finding it out. I dunno.

Hellgiver · 01/10/2010 09:07 AM

(01/10/2010 03:59 AM)Assassinator Wrote:
(01/10/2010 03:00 AM)Hellgiver Wrote: "I think it is pretty foolish to think it would be easy for that student to ignore all the criticism, all the judging eyes, all the shame, whether it is worth being shamed over or not... Such unbelievable pain, I can see someone getting to the point where they consider the pain unbearable, and there appears to be no way out. I have not experienced what he has, but I have entertained extreme thoughts, such as suicide."

Just leave, go to somewhere where absolutely noone knows you, like Australia, and start over again. Better than being dead at least.

I personally would never just commit suicide. My theory is... if there is a cause to all the pain/suffering/whatever, take out the cause. That is, instead of killing myself, kill the people who caused me to want to kill myself. So even if I do die in the end, at least I die satisfied, knowing that I managed to get them back. Yes, that's extremely selfish, but by that stage, I really don't think I would care any more. Of course, that's the very very last resort, if absolutely everything else fails, so hopefully, it'll never come to that.

I did not mean to insinuate that committing suicide was either the correct answer, nor justifiable. However, what I WAS trying to say was that I can understand an extreme response (leaving the country is another extreme response), and I could not see many other reasonable conclusions, which are not extreme in some manner. Perhaps it is because I have this amazing ability to weigh actions and consequences, a superpower that few could even dream of... but the fact that this little spoon couldn't even comprehend that it would hurt someone, or that it would result in a horribly traumatic event for the victim... well, that once again leads credence to my previous statement of him either being a complete moron, or a complete donkey. Either way, I find his contribution to society to be of a detrimental nature, at best.

I hope I clarified my opinion.

Tetris999 · 01/10/2010 08:10 PM

Well hellgiver is on the right track and so is sensei (which means i agree with both)

The guy didn't need to sneak into another mans private life; being very secluded about what i like i could understand if someone just broke my privacy in some way.

But really...if you're bringing guys over to your apartment and having sex; well, you're being totally gay (no pun intended) and for someone to piece together that he's gay by his actions is only inevitable; so also, i cannot understand why he was trying to hide it nor feel ashamed of it like sensei said. Obviously his partners knew he was gay, he's doing a really crappy job of "hiding" it, so why the hell is he surprised if someone found out? Why kill yourself? The world has other gay people in it.

"If you cannot expose yourself to your community, there can never be a community for you" (something like that) is what my english professor said today; if you really want to have people to relate and talk to, then being shut out of your beliefs will only make you "alone" in the end with the rather fake community you are trying so hard to adapt to. Suicide is NEVER the answer, but it was VERY stupid on his part; i pity him, but i can't blame his death on someone who exposed his privacy; so i really can't understand the murder charges clause.

Bottom line though, it didn't need to happen and it ended in a very bad way. As such, as human beings wee all need to know what wee can do to avoid a situation like this from ever happening again; that's it.

P.S. More editing to come, i need to get going atm

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