Assassinator Wrote:

ben3gfc Wrote:well i guess i like iTunes' GUI and everything about it except the long start up time.
and i hate the Quicktime GUI and the fact that it only plays .mov and .mpeg4 (i think it also plays the mpeg2, mpeg etc)

yeah, quicktime (and most other players) have very chocolatety compatability with some formats (most formats if u consider all the uncommon ones)

ben3gfc Wrote:because when i download shows etc, they are usually .rmvb, .rm, or .avi, and if they are ever .mp4, i put them on my PSP to watch instead

To playback all ur videos on ur comp, i suggest u get a codec pack, some suggestions are the k-lite mega codec pack, storm codec pack, cole2k codec pack... and then use mpc (media player classic) to play the video. mpc has the best compatability, and plays everything, thru direct show, if u have the right codecs installed, it is also one of the few players that can support most if not all other video features such as different subtitles formats, swapping between multiple streams, chapters, menu and other stuff.

use real alternative to play .rm and .rmvb files.
use quicktime alternative to play quicktime files.


Solely on playing back music, mpc is the probably also the best audio "player", but it's only good at "playing" audio, it doesn't do anything else. So Winamp is probably the best overall, since u got music libraries and can sort music and all that stuff also.

I'm using the Storm Codec right now with MPC already lol :D

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:

Syfe Wrote:you're welcome.
it's totally free too. so i can use this link here http://un4seen.com

Just tried it, but it does seem to have some issues.  Really small (300KB+!!!) and pretty good, but I couldn't get it to load my AAC files, muxed in MP4 or not.  WAV worked fine, and I suppose Vorbis and MP3 should.  I tried copying all my Winamp plugins to XMplay, but the program crashed on loading.  After deleting random plugins, I managed to get it to start and work fine, but even though Winamp's AAC plugin is there, XMplay refused to load any .aac .m4a or .mp4 files...
Also no global hotkey support - looks like I'll be staying with Winamp for now...

*EDIT* Managed to get it to load the AAC file by unticking verify file contents, but it refuses to play.

Xmplay doesn't play video. only music.

Quote:Winamp Over WMP for video.

^^AAC is music (AAC = advanced audio coding).

where can i find this plugin and a random song coded in such a format?

Plugin?  IDK, that's what I was going on about - Google?  Haven't tried.
EDIT: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=aac+pl...=firefox-a
Okay, that was easy...
EDIT 2: XMplay doesn't have a DirectShow plugin?!?!?!  That would be really good...

AAC is used a lot more than you probably think.  All music purchased from the iTunes store is in LC-AAC format (with DRM).  All MP4 videos for iPod/PSP have an LC-AAC audio track.  Basically, AAC is the "new MP3" (according to the MPEG consortium).  Both PSP and iPod support AAC in the LC profile.

If you want my comparison of audio codecs: http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=536
AAC gives better compression than MP3.

(This post was last modified: 07/05/2007 04:52 PM by ZiNgA BuRgA.)

hmm... okay then, how about the encoder program for AAC? i have LAME for Mp3s

AAC is an unbreakable format then, they knew about xmplay so they special coded the file. on xmplay you can rip cds and mp3s

Usually Nero's or CT's AAC encoder. (both are free)  CT comes in-built with Winamp.

I prefer ripping CDs with a dedicated CD ripper though - they usually have jitter correction etc, that these music players don't have.

Anyways, OGG Vorbis > AAC IMO.

second that. ogg beats out AAC when it comes to ripping again. CDA>OGG>WAV>MP3 =/= CDA>AAC>??? (mac might be able to encode it only)

i like mp3, but as long as I can play it in winamp and the quality is better than 192kbps mp3, ill take it :P
i used to reencode stuff to mp3pro but i stopped that lol

it will still play as well in 112-128 modes... i compress for my psp due to memory limits, curses the memory stick