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Slushba132 · 26/08/2012 06:44 PM

(26/08/2012 05:45 PM)Assassinator Wrote: @Slushba:

When the whole system is only $800, spending $300 on an SSD is pants on head retarded. Also, if your HDD is transferring at 300 fucking MB a second I don't think you care any more. And access speeds are more important than raw transfer anyway.

I was the one who was against the SSD...
Senseito + Accessories were the ones who were pro SSD

As for transfer speeds, you care when you are moving anime around, or when moving other large gigabyte sized files. 45% of 30 minutes = 13.5 minutes... that's a lot of time off of a file transfer... at least for me who is impatient.
Why buy the Hard Drive if you're going to cap it at 45% of it's potential. Unless you plan on upgrading soon. Which he probably won't be since it's his new PC.
I'm saying it's all un-necessary, but if you are going to go that path, you wight as well go all out.

RIKKU · 26/08/2012 09:28 PM

o.o

Kuu · 26/08/2012 10:09 PM

SSD are the best value investment to improve speed of your machine. An SSD with Intel Rapid Start Technology turned on is less than a 10 second boot to a usable desktop with all the programs running that you were using last time. I can't recommend it enough. You can even get a small 30-64GB and use the Intel Rapid Storage Technology to improve read/write to your 1TB if you don't feel like having 2 drives.

ZiNgA BuRgA · 26/08/2012 11:20 PM

(26/08/2012 05:23 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: If your SSD is capable of performing at this rate you actually would notice the difference during large file transfers...

A typical OS drive doesn't do any large transfers. I wouldn't be storing anime on a 60-120GB drive anyway - that's what the 2TB drives are for.

Assassinator · 27/08/2012 01:12 AM

(26/08/2012 06:44 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: As for transfer speeds, you care when you are moving anime around, or when moving other large gigabyte sized files. 45% of 30 minutes = 13.5 minutes... that's a lot of time off of a file transfer... at least for me who is impatient.

You shouldn't be transferring craploads of anime around every day. I mean, I do that like once a year.

(26/08/2012 06:44 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: Why buy the Hard Drive if you're going to cap it at 45% of it's potential. Unless you plan on upgrading soon. Which he probably won't be since it's his new PC.
I'm saying it's all un-necessary, but if you are going to go that path, you wight as well go all out.

Pay 3x as much for 45% performance? Nah.

(By the way, to other people reading this, I'm talking about normal SSDs vs high end SSDs).

S7* · 27/08/2012 01:16 AM

(26/08/2012 10:09 PM)Kuu Wrote: SSD are the best value investment to improve speed of your machine.

Yup. No doubt about that.

Slushba132 · 28/08/2012 05:18 PM

(26/08/2012 10:09 PM)Kuu Wrote: SSD are the best value investment to improve speed of your machine. An SSD with Intel Rapid Start Technology turned on is less than a 10 second boot to a usable desktop with all the programs running that you were using last time. I can't recommend it enough. You can even get a small 30-64GB and use the Intel Rapid Storage Technology to improve read/write to your 1TB if you don't feel like having 2 drives.

Overclocking
would be the "best value" investment for a performance increase. 0 dollars for greater speed and processing power.

I would think a processor is the second best value investment to improve the "speed" of your machine
Since the on CPU ram controller has direct access to RAM and directly affects memory clock
as well as the fact that the CPU has a huge influence (if not the only influence in most machines) on the total amount of FLOPS
and IOPS that can be performed...

Just because you boot faster doesn't mean your PC doesn't run like shit once it's booted...
if you take the 100-300 dollars you'd spend on the SSD and put it towards your CPU you're far better off.

(27/08/2012 01:12 AM)Assassinator Wrote:
(26/08/2012 06:44 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: As for transfer speeds, you care when you are moving anime around, or when moving other large gigabyte sized files. 45% of 30 minutes = 13.5 minutes... that's a lot of time off of a file transfer... at least for me who is impatient.

You shouldn't be transferring craploads of anime around every day. I mean, I do that like once a year.

(26/08/2012 06:44 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: Why buy the Hard Drive if you're going to cap it at 45% of it's potential. Unless you plan on upgrading soon. Which he probably won't be since it's his new PC.
I'm saying it's all un-necessary, but if you are going to go that path, you wight as well go all out.

Pay 3x as much for 45% performance? Nah.

(By the way, to other people reading this, I'm talking about normal SSDs vs high end SSDs).

Anime isn't the only thing that people transfer. I just used it as an example since they are generally large files... A 30 second file transfer could be reduced to 13.5 second, A 60 second transfer could be reduced to 27 seconds etc...
If you're going to buy an SSD why would you waste the money on a SATA II drive when it's already outdated technology...

You make it sound like 45% of something is a small number.
45% is absolutely huge...
Imagine if you only had 55% of your bank account, because someone took the other 45%.
I imagine you'd be quite upset...

Assassinator · 28/08/2012 06:04 PM

(28/08/2012 05:18 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: Just because you boot faster doesn't mean your PC doesn't run like shit once it's booted...
if you take the 100-300 dollars you'd spend on the SSD and put it towards your CPU you're far better off.

You're probably one of these guy who would buy a Core i7-3960X for $1000 and justify it by saying, in raw numbers it's the fastest.

What you never considered is that it won't be any faster than a Core i5-3570K (less than 1/4 of the price) in 95% of applications because you get bottlenecks elsewhere and/or the application simply doesn't need that much power. If you have a super computer made up of 2000 Xeon cores, and use it to run Media Player Classic or Mozilla Firefox, do you think they will run any faster?

You only really need so much processing power, any more is not worth the cost.

(26/08/2012 06:44 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: Anime isn't the only thing that people transfer. I just used it as an example since they are generally large files... A 30 second file transfer could be reduced to 13.5 second, A 60 second transfer could be reduced to 27 seconds etc...

Look you buy an SSD to stick your OS install, applications, and stuff like games on it.  It's not a storage drive to store anime or ISOs.

File transfer speed is mostly irrelevant because you shouldn't be storing large files on it in the first place.  Access speed is much more important.

Besides, if you're transferring large amounts of data anything more than lets say once a month, you're doing something wrong.  And who actually watches files transfer, you just ctrl-x, ctrl-v, then go do something else.

(26/08/2012 06:44 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: You make it sound like 45% of something is a small number.
45% is absolutely huge...
Imagine if you only had 55% of your bank account, because someone took the other 45%.
I imagine you'd be quite upset...

You make it sound as if 300% of the cost is a small number.
300% is absolutely huge...
Imagine if you paid $1000 for something, and they actually charged you $3000.
I imagine you'd be quite upset...

Look if you're that desperate for raw transfer speed, you can get 3 normal SSDs for $300, then set up a raid0 array,then you get 3x raw transfer speed AND 3x storage.

tl;dr - Slushie you have no idea what you're talking about.

Slushba132 · 29/08/2012 12:56 PM

[align=left]Tl:dr
I wouldn't buy an i7 because Intel is chocolatety and overpriced...

An SDD is a waste of money and only useful for bragging rights and shortening boot time

S7* · 29/08/2012 03:48 PM

(29/08/2012 12:56 PM)Slushba132 Wrote: An SDD is a waste of money and only useful for bragging rights and shortening boot time

(28/08/2012 06:04 PM)Assassinator Wrote: Slushie you have no idea what you're talking about.

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