(20/12/2011 01:55 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  define: sufficient for voice
On a ventrilo server running GSM (the standard if you don't use shitty speex wee sample with 16bit 44.1Khz

What
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM#Voice_codecs
Besides GSM was superseded by AMR-NB.

You don't need CD quality sampling for voice, and every sane voice system (PSTN, VoIP, SIP, even Apple's Siri protocol) doesn't.

(20/12/2011 01:55 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  digital signal will have to be converted to analog eventually but usually through individual drivers in order to produce something with true surround sound (I.E. Razer Tiamat)

My presumption is that the headphones only actually have two drivers.
After all, it was advertised as a 7.1 » 2ch downsampler, not something that retains 8ch and outputs it like that.
You pay more for more drivers, and arguably, it's worse; 2 high quality drivers > 10 low quality ones.

(20/12/2011 01:55 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  I payed 250 USD for a sound card that can output and input optical signal at 24 bit 192Khz because I don't want any quality degradation...

I'm not sure about audio input (where are you inputting from anyway?), but optical out supplied by onboard sound is just as good as that from a high end sound card.
If you only needed optical out, you wasted your money.  After all, the money for the sound card goes into the analog outputs, not the digital ones.

(20/12/2011 01:55 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  in order to pay additional money to have them fudge up this perfect signal is unacceptable

Because the $90 processor is much cheaper than a $250 sound card...

(20/12/2011 05:01 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  

(20/12/2011 01:55 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  On a ventrilo server running GSM (the standard if you don't use shitty speex wee sample with 16bit 44.1Khz

You don't need CD quality sampling for voice, and every sane voice system (PSTN, VoIP, SIP, even Apple's Siri protocol) doesn't.

There's no point anyway, since crappy microphones attached to headsets all suck ass, so the input itself will be the major limiter on quality, not what sample rate you use to code your input.  So just a waste of bitrate.

(20/12/2011 04:27 PM)Slushba132 Wrote:  you can always upscale quality

Please don't say that, it never works, what you get in an illusion of quality, not real quality.

I can upsample a 320p youtube vid with 64kb/s audio (which takes up 5MB of space) into a lossless 1080p vid with 24bit lossless audio (which takes 50GB of space), but in the end it's still going to be a piece of shit, and that will never ever change.

(This post was last modified: 20/12/2011 05:54 PM by Assassinator.)

Slushba132 Wrote:and yes the quality difference is what it means to an audiophile (I think you can definitely hear the difference sometimes as well, at least if you can't I can)
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you can always upscale quality

Priceless.