(25/12/2010 08:30 PM)lembas Wrote:  spoon, if you haven't done any programming before, I'd say start with something like Python, or maybe Java, then go to C++.

Python and Java are way easier, and will teach you programming theory kinda stuff. If you've done programming before, it'd be much easier to move on to C++.

are you insane??

java is ridiculously more difficult than c++, in addition to being an impractical language.

and as a linux user, you should be in love with c++ anyway.

as for the threads posed question, i would suggest this sucker http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Compreh...1576107779

its what made me pass CS 105 (programming in c++)

seriously, learn c++ before java, unless you want to tear your hair out with method calls and all manner of tomfoolery.

i was more against java than python :p

programming languages these days are like fighting disciplines: karate, judo, taekwondo, kung-fudge you, jiujutsu, etc
when compared or fought between each other, it's the one who master his chosen field the most wins.

i suggest you try both, also others, not just C/C++/C#, and see which you like the most.

i liked c++ than others before. but i ended up not using it on my job (databases)

(26/12/2010 10:38 AM)trademark91 Wrote:  

(25/12/2010 08:30 PM)lembas Wrote:  spoon, if you haven't done any programming before, I'd say start with something like Python, or maybe Java, then go to C++.

Python and Java are way easier, and will teach you programming theory kinda stuff. If you've done programming before, it'd be much easier to move on to C++.

are you insane??

java is ridiculously more difficult than c++, in addition to being an impractical language.

and as a linux user, you should be in love with c++ anyway.

as for the threads posed question, i would suggest this sucker http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Compreh...1576107779

its what made me pass CS 105 (programming in c++)

seriously, learn c++ before java, unless you want to tear your hair out with method calls and all manner of tomfoolery.

lol, I did a little in both C++ and Java, and I found Java much easier.

(26/12/2010 11:37 AM)lembas Wrote:  

(26/12/2010 10:38 AM)trademark91 Wrote:  

(25/12/2010 08:30 PM)lembas Wrote:  spoon, if you haven't done any programming before, I'd say start with something like Python, or maybe Java, then go to C++.

Python and Java are way easier, and will teach you programming theory kinda stuff. If you've done programming before, it'd be much easier to move on to C++.

are you insane??

java is ridiculously more difficult than c++, in addition to being an impractical language.

and as a linux user, you should be in love with c++ anyway.

as for the threads posed question, i would suggest this sucker http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Compreh...1576107779

its what made me pass CS 105 (programming in c++)

seriously, learn c++ before java, unless you want to tear your hair out with method calls and all manner of tomfoolery.

lol, I did a little in both C++ and Java, and I found Java much easier.

grade on my final in java:

0.8% F

grade on my final in C++:

98% A


i put in the same amount of work in both classes. c++ makes sense, java does not. have fun with pointless calls to things instead of simply saying what to do.

like I said, a little. I have no idea what 'calls' are lol.

Ugh, I really don't recommend python. I felt perfectly fine going straight from html to actually programming with Java. I found python a bore, and quite a waste of time. One thing that I REALLY liked, though, was Alice. If you can find a course on it, there's lots of fun to be had. Or you can just go it alone, as it is pretty intuitive.  Is supposed to make courses like Java and C++ easier to interpret. http://www.alice.org/index.php?page=down...d_alice2.2  

Quote:In Alice's interactive interface, students drag and drop graphic tiles to create a program, where the instructions correspond to standard statements in a production oriented programming language, such as Java, C++, and C#. Alice allows students to immediately see how their animation programs run, enabling them to easily understand the relationship between the programming statements and the behavior of objects in their animation. By manipulating the objects in their virtual world, students gain experience with all the programming constructs typically taught in an introductory programming course.

If you wish to mess around and see immediately results, then that is my first starting suggestion. Or just jump right in... Java is perfectly fine start. C++ if not Java.

c++ first even though C is easier with fail safes i felt the whole trying to figure what you did wrong, (the frustration lol) helps you learn.

python or java are easy too, however programming is always easy the second time around.

oh man alice was way too easy

(26/12/2010 01:19 PM)LumpiaWarrior Wrote:  however programming is always easy the second time around.

exactly this.

Which is why I'd suggest an easier language first, then you can move on to C/C++ when you have a better grasp of programming in general.

(26/12/2010 01:27 PM)lembas Wrote:  

(26/12/2010 01:19 PM)LumpiaWarrior Wrote:  however programming is always easy the second time around.

exactly this.

Which is why I'd suggest an easier language first, then you can move on to C/C++ when you have a better grasp of programming in general.

I did both java and c++ and ive got say java is more user friendly and is an easier language than c++