Heartless141 Wrote:hmmm ok then.

just to be an asshole:
if he bought the stuffs himself already, downloading another version of it won't count as piracy.:P

that's not annoying assholish -.-

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If you want to be technically correct, I believe the law has actually been amended to allow copying for the purposes of display, so downloading a webpage is making a copy, but doesn't infringe copyright.

I don't think you can justify piracy by saying you legally own a copy.  It's like trying to justify that you 'borrowed' a car cause someone 'borrowed' yours.

MysterySword Wrote:And if someone 'borrowed' a person's car, it's different than the music scenario. You'd actually own the music, and still have it. If ya don't have the original, then it's illegal.

That's the problem - you don't actually "own" the music (from how I understand it).  You have a "license" to listen to it and a few other things.  It's sort of like you borrowing the music indefinitely.  The record company is the one who "owns" the music, which is why they can retain rights over it.
You own the CD if that's what you bought.  (online purchases make this "license" even more clear with DRM)

If your CD breaks, then I would assume you lose this license.  Like how if you lose your password to your account, you've lost the account.  There may be methods to retrieve your lost password (eg ring up the login system admins) and it may be possible to make similar arrangements with music (I doubt it though) but you can't justify stealing someone else's account because of that.

Note, obviously I could be horribly wrong here.
Perhaps US's fair use laws permit this - I don't live in the US so I am unsure of their laws there.  Though if this was the case, then piracy enforcement agencies have the additional trouble of trying to verify the person illegally downloading stuff doesn't actually own a legal copy...

New rule.

If they have internet, they pirate.