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trademark91 Wrote:yeah, but for all the benefits, its worth the minor aggravations

Taking 6 days to install would be more than "minor" if I have to say so.

And... care to explain your benefits? (over lets say Windows, or a more user friendly Linux distro like Kubuntu (also uses KDE))

its more developer friendly, plus its really easy to fix errors because i can have the default runlevel set to 3, and fix any errors with ease, whereas if i had kubuntu and got this error, i would be stuck because i wouldnt have the option to change the default runlevel. plus, its the closest you can get to a "generic" os, so i can add only what i want (developer packages, specific sets of programs, etc) i get no dependency checking, which saves a lot of greif, and i can compile any app with ease, thanks to all the headers preexisting. I also like that its a base linux core, so updating the kernel is really easy, instead of installing extra stuff like in debian with all the modules and extensions on the kernel...
Lol what?


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RE: What the fudge?? :facepalm:
trademark91 Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:yeah, but for all the benefits, its worth the minor aggravations

Taking 6 days to install would be more than "minor" if I have to say so.

And... care to explain your benefits? (over lets say Windows, or a more user friendly Linux distro like Kubuntu (also uses KDE))

its more developer friendly, plus its really easy to fix errors because i can have the default runlevel set to 3, and fix any errors with ease, whereas if i had kubuntu and got this error, i would be stuck because i wouldnt have the option to change the default runlevel. plus, its the closest you can get to a "generic" os, so i can add only what i want (developer packages, specific sets of programs, etc) i get no dependency checking, which saves a lot of greif, and i can compile any app with ease, thanks to all the headers preexisting. I also like that its a base linux core, so updating the kernel is really easy, instead of installing extra stuff like in debian with all the modules and extensions on the kernel...

very valid points for Slack. nicely put. ^^
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Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:
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trademark91 Wrote:yeah, but for all the benefits, its worth the minor aggravations

Taking 6 days to install would be more than "minor" if I have to say so.

And... care to explain your benefits? (over lets say Windows, or a more user friendly Linux distro like Kubuntu (also uses KDE))

its more developer friendly, plus its really easy to fix errors because i can have the default runlevel set to 3, and fix any errors with ease, whereas if i had kubuntu and got this error, i would be stuck because i wouldnt have the option to change the default runlevel. plus, its the closest you can get to a "generic" os, so i can add only what i want (developer packages, specific sets of programs, etc) i get no dependency checking, which saves a lot of greif, and i can compile any app with ease, thanks to all the headers preexisting. I also like that its a base linux core, so updating the kernel is really easy, instead of installing extra stuff like in debian with all the modules and extensions on the kernel...

very valid points for Slack. nicely put. ^^

thanks. i put a lot of time into picking my distro

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RE: What the fudge?? :facepalm:
trademark91 Wrote:
Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:yeah, but for all the benefits, its worth the minor aggravations

Taking 6 days to install would be more than "minor" if I have to say so.

And... care to explain your benefits? (over lets say Windows, or a more user friendly Linux distro like Kubuntu (also uses KDE))

its more developer friendly, plus its really easy to fix errors because i can have the default runlevel set to 3, and fix any errors with ease, whereas if i had kubuntu and got this error, i would be stuck because i wouldnt have the option to change the default runlevel. plus, its the closest you can get to a "generic" os, so i can add only what i want (developer packages, specific sets of programs, etc) i get no dependency checking, which saves a lot of greif, and i can compile any app with ease, thanks to all the headers preexisting. I also like that its a base linux core, so updating the kernel is really easy, instead of installing extra stuff like in debian with all the modules and extensions on the kernel...

very valid points for Slack. nicely put. ^^

thanks. i put a lot of time into picking my distro

Here a few I tried...

Ubuntu (liked it, Gnome was quite nice, had WiFi problems though)

Kubuntu (prefer it over Ubuntu, no wireless problems, plenty to sink your teeth into out of the box and Adept works well......... when it works and not get stuck)

Symphony (completely sucked, out of date now as well)

SUSE (bit bloated IMO)

SLAX (portable, but out of date now, Puppy is a better alternative)

... and MEPIS (I had a mysterious love for this distro... its LIVE CD has saved me a multitude of times, a lot worked out of the box with older versions, too)
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trademark91 Wrote:its more developer friendly, plus its really easy to fix errors because i can have the default runlevel set to 3, and fix any errors with ease, whereas if i had kubuntu and got this error, i would be stuck because i wouldnt have the option to change the default runlevel.

I'm not a Linux user, so I don't really know about that kind of stuff... But I do believe it's the distro's fault you got that error in the 1st place. So if you were using Kubuntu, you never would have the need to fix it.

trademark91 Wrote:plus, its the closest you can get to a "generic" os, so i can add only what i want (developer packages, specific sets of programs, etc) i get no dependency checking, which saves a lot of greif,

and i can compile any app with ease, thanks to all the headers preexisting.

Ok, I'll accept that, if that's what you like.

trademark91 Wrote:I also like that its a base linux core, so updating the kernel is really easy, instead of installing extra stuff like in debian with all the modules and extensions on the kernel...

Well... it took you 6 days to get it installed properly.... I really wouldn't care how easy it is to update.
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RE: What the fudge?? :facepalm:
Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:
Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:
trademark91 Wrote:yeah, but for all the benefits, its worth the minor aggravations

Taking 6 days to install would be more than "minor" if I have to say so.

And... care to explain your benefits? (over lets say Windows, or a more user friendly Linux distro like Kubuntu (also uses KDE))

its more developer friendly, plus its really easy to fix errors because i can have the default runlevel set to 3, and fix any errors with ease, whereas if i had kubuntu and got this error, i would be stuck because i wouldnt have the option to change the default runlevel. plus, its the closest you can get to a "generic" os, so i can add only what i want (developer packages, specific sets of programs, etc) i get no dependency checking, which saves a lot of greif, and i can compile any app with ease, thanks to all the headers preexisting. I also like that its a base linux core, so updating the kernel is really easy, instead of installing extra stuff like in debian with all the modules and extensions on the kernel...

very valid points for Slack. nicely put. ^^

thanks. i put a lot of time into picking my distro

Here a few I tried...

Ubuntu (liked it, Gnome was quite nice, had WiFi problems though)

Kubuntu (prefer it over Ubuntu, no wireless problems, plenty to sink your teeth into out of the box and Adept works well......... when it works and not get stuck)

Symphony (completely sucked, out of date now as well)

SUSE (bit bloated IMO)

SLAX (portable, but out of date now, Puppy is a better alternative)

... and MEPIS (I had a mysterious love for this distro... its LIVE CD has saved me a multitude of times, a lot worked out of the box with older versions, too)

yeah... i got an ubuntu live cd which i used to use. it can auto detect my wlan0, and connect with out a word from me. it was convenient to be able to pop in a cd and google for a quick fix. i eventually switched to slackware for the previously stated reasons, plus a desire to learn linux, and now i can fix most errors quickly since my default runlevel is 3 and that *always works Madwin

this error stumps me though... (and the hard working individuals on linuxquestions.org as well)

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Rukia Wrote:os rants bleh


when is it ever gonna stop lol
mine does this
well mine cooks toast

well mine makes toasters
well mine makes things that make toasters


Oh Yeah?
Well mine makes things that make things that make toasters

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Assassinator Wrote:I'm not a Linux user, so I don't really know about that kind of stuff... But I do believe it's the distro's fault you got that error in the 1st place. So if you were using Kubuntu, you never would have the need to fix it.

the error doesn't seem to be with the distro, that's the thing. the error is with hal. which means its most likely a combination of my xorg.conf files, and the detection of hardware. So theoretically, the error COULD occur in Kubuntu, in which case, i wouldnt be able to use the keyboard or mouse, and would be stuck without a way out.



Assassinator Wrote:Well... it took you 6 days to get it installed properly.... I really wouldn't care how easy it is to update.

it took 6 days because i was taking my time, juggling it with classes and other things. plus, i had it configured on the 2nd morning. i just spent a lot of time getting the packages and programs i wanted, and theming it.

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trademark91 Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:I'm not a Linux user, so I don't really know about that kind of stuff... But I do believe it's the distro's fault you got that error in the 1st place. So if you were using Kubuntu, you never would have the need to fix it.

the error doesn't seem to be with the distro, that's the thing. the error is with hal. which means its most likely a combination of my xorg.conf files, and the detection of hardware. So theoretically, the error COULD occur in Kubuntu, in which case, i wouldnt be able to use the keyboard or mouse, and would be stuck without a way out.

Don't really understand what you're talking about (only experience I have with Linux is using the EP server for basic file manipulation, and using stuff like 7z, rtorrent). But I'll believe you.

roberth Wrote:
Rukia Wrote:os rants bleh


when is it ever gonna stop lol
mine does this
well mine cooks toast

well mine makes toasters
well mine makes things that make toasters


Oh Yeah?
Well mine makes things that make things that make toasters

Well mine makes bread that comes pre-toasted. Don't need toasters, toasters are the past.
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Assassinator Wrote:Don't really understand what you're talking about (only experience I have with Linux is using the EP server for basic file manipulation, and using stuff like 7z, rtorrent). But I'll believe you.

I suppose it doesn't really matter. im just complaining because i am pissed off about the bug. at least im not the only one experiencing it though...


roberth Wrote:
Rukia Wrote:os rants bleh


when is it ever gonna stop lol
mine does this
well mine cooks toast

well mine makes toasters
well mine makes things that make toasters


Oh Yeah?
Well mine makes things that make things that make toasters

Well mine makes bread that comes pre-toasted. Don't need toasters, toasters are the past.
[/quote]


OH YEAH???

MINE MAKES BAGELS! your toasters have just been pwnt

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