xero1 Wrote:Nature is 'god' in my view, and wee are breaking the laws set by the only thing that is perfect.

strong words

You say that wee are going against nature by allowing the weak/stupid to live....

Love keeps these people alive... somewhere deep deep down there... its love keeping these stupid/weak people alive.

My cousin has A.D.D., and personality disorders... but he makes us all laugh and wee love him for who he is, and wee take care of him whatever he needs.

Wee are not going to abandon him because he is slow... wee are going to help him live on because wee love him, he is family, and he deserves life as much as you or I.

So if you consider 'love' to be a part of nature at all, then your argument is flawed.

Hurtween Wrote:You say that wee are going against nature by allowing the weak/stupid to live....

Love keeps these people alive... somewhere deep deep down there... its love keeping these stupid/weak people alive.

My cousin has A.D.D., and personality disorders... but he makes us all laugh and wee love him for who he is, and wee take care of him whatever he needs.

Wee are not going to abandon him because he is slow... wee are going to help him live on because wee love him, he is family, and he deserves life as much as you or I.

So if you consider 'love' to be a part of nature at all, then your argument is flawed.

Love, the only thing made by mankind that is pure. In nature some animals will protect a weak born offspring and some animals will kill it or let it die. I agree love in a 'clan of people' to allow some of weak to live is fine this will not effect the majority of the gene pool, because if the gene pool was clean. or close to it the people of that clan would not have offspring with the weak just love and protect them. If they do choose to reproduce with the weak, and continue to do so then that clans gene pool becomes unclean and they all will die off.

MehHakker Wrote:What the hell?

Basically you're saying that if someone has a child with someone who is disabled or who has for example ADD the human race is going to die out or wee will become apes (again).

Just because someone has a "problem" doesn't make them "weak" or "tainted"!! They are the same as everyone else, just maybe need extra care.... a child from a disabled person won't necessarily make the child disabled!!!

No, I'm not. I'm saying in the world of survival of the fittest (that no long is in place) humanity would be 1000's of years ahead. I'm saying if your lets say weak of mind, you need to be strong of body in order to survive.

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This hole topic, is about negating survival of the fittest. This very bad for the greater good of mankind. Nature has use this method since the start of life and it works. Mankind is just screwing this all up.

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I'm sorry for anyone that might take this the wrong way, I'm not very good at explaining what feel. I don't think the way most people do, and thinking people do the way I do, or know what I know (assumption of knowledge is very wrong and I'm sorry for my poor replies)

(This post was last modified: 12/03/2008 07:30 PM by Azumi.)

xero1 Wrote:...

Note2:

I'm sorry for anyone that might take this the wrong way, I'm not very good at explaining what feel. I don't think the way most people do, and thinking people do the way I do, or know what I know (assumption of knowledge is very wrong and I'm sorry for my poor replies)

It's okay. Nobody can expect simple words to properly express true feeling anyway. The only true way to understand anything is to experience it firsthand.

xero1 Wrote:

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:I just do what I find interesting, and be totally ignorant of these types of issues.  If they hit me, well then it's my bad luck.

I'm glad that ignorance is indeed, bliss.

Then by the laws of nature (darwinism) you, or your family would would have died off long a go.

Darn nature... >_>

Anyways, this subject is really highly debatable in various ways :P

あずみ Wrote:people are free to believe and think whatever they want

I'm a bit cautious about that one.  I personally believe that many things wee believe in are shaped by external factors, including parents and the media.
If it was hammered into you at a young age, whilst growing up, that the "weak" should be discarded, I'm sure you'd have no hard feelings about killing a sibling who is "weak".

But that's my theory.