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(26/04/2011 06:30 PM)Assassinator Wrote:  

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Ekusoshisuto	83.4	0.668
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Zinga	81.0	0.620


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Last time I checked I was closest to ProperBritish, not anymore obviously. I've never really understood the MAL compatibilty. I can only assume that it means wee have the same tastes in anime or something similar..?

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If you want to think of it that way, then yes.  I personally like to think of it as yet-another-stupid-statistic-to-try-to-encourage-social-networking - perhaps something more interesting than a "you have 9001 friends, 53.536% of which are female, 15.48% do not know their gender" etc.
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(26/04/2011 10:48 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  If you want to think of it that way, then yes.  I personally like to think of it as yet-another-stupid-statistic-to-try-to-encourage-social-networking - perhaps something more interesting than a "you have 9001 friends, 53.536% of which are female, 15.48% do not know their gender" etc.

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(26/04/2011 06:06 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  Some things I've somewhat wondered about:
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Is there anything with the hair tie removal?  Kyoko removes it when she gives herself up, Homura removes it (along with her glasses) when she changes her mood, and Madoka removes her's when she leaves.

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Hah, interesting thought. Kyokos hairpin was her soul gem wasn't it? I suppose she didn't want to die head first (lol). Homura's mood changes was a bit typical for a glasses-girl - which she wasn't much of in the "final timeline". Does Madokas hair tie link Homura to Madokas plane? Was it responsible for letting her remember her? (Though the really confusing bit is the fact Madokas younger brother remembered her - and even drew her.)

(26/04/2011 06:06 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  
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Kyubei, in episode 8, says that it was the second time he was killed by Homura.  In episode 10, I only recall her killing Kyubei being shown once.  Of course, wee don't know whether Homura killed him before on the same timeline, but otherwise, is there any suggestion that he has some ability to see through the various timelines?

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There was no obvious indication that he could. Kyubei is the kind of character to mention it anyway.

(26/04/2011 06:06 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  
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Is the guy living with Madoka's family (not her brother) the father?

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Yeah - he's a house-husband. lol.

(26/04/2011 06:06 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  
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Maybe I need to rewatch, but what did Madoka do to somehow cause her mum not to give birth to a daughter again?

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This is a good point. Interestingly, with Mami, Sayaka and Kyoko returning it obviously indicates time has been rewound - yet Homura is the only one capable of acknowledging Madokas existance (other than Madokas brother). It seemed like she was "removed" - in the same way Mami was removed from the universe when she died (nobody knew she was dead except for Madoka and Sakaya - or she had no friends and I'm completely on the wrong track here). So she must have existed up to that point - only her existence as a human had been removed from everyones minds.
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(27/04/2011 01:04 AM)S7* Wrote:  Hah, interesting thought. Kyokos hairpin was her soul gem wasn't it? I suppose she didn't want to die head first (lol). Homura's mood changes was a bit typical for a glasses-girl - which she wasn't much of in the "final timeline". Does Madokas hair tie link Homura to Madokas plane? Was it responsible for letting her remember her? (Though the really confusing bit is the fact Madokas younger brother remembered her - and even drew her.)
Hmm, does appear to be the case, didn't see that before.  Removing the glasses does seem to reflect change in character, but IDK about the hair tie removal.

I did mention before that Homura's time travel seems to be somewhat imperfect, a while back.  I noticed 2 things:
1. Madoka gets stronger in each cycle
2. Madoka remembers part of the previous time in a dream

Their explanation for the first sounds similar to the quantum universe theory of time travel, except that the travel of time seems to have an effect on others, not just the time traveller.  It's some poo poo about "being centered around someone" though it sounds like bullchocolate since I don't see how intentions cause any magic build up, but anyway, wee'll go along with their explanation.
My theory is that #2 above is explained by the imperfection of time travel.  So if Madoka traverses through time to screw up the world, the time travel still leaves traces of "pre-time travel" (if that concept even makes sense; multidimensional time?) around the place.
It explains a number of possibilities, such as how Homura even got the ribbon at the end - if Madoka, after the rewrite, never existed in the human plane, it would've been impossible for Homura to have ever met her, let alone take one of her ribbons (and wee'll not go into stuff like how the ribbon was created etc).  Although Madoka's change didn't affect Homura's personal timeline, the imperfection does.

(27/04/2011 01:04 AM)S7* Wrote:  There was no obvious indication that he could. Kyubei is the kind of character to mention it anyway.
He also wouldn't necessarily tell too much either.  Not really much is known about him really.
Note also that Kyubei was the one talking to Madoka in ep12 about the fact that she no longer existed = some implication he has more powers than what wee know about.
On the other hand, that scene with Mami and Kyoko talking to Madoka in that episode may suggest that it's just an addition.

(27/04/2011 01:04 AM)S7* Wrote:  This is a good point. Interestingly, with Mami, Sayaka and Kyoko returning it obviously indicates time has been rewound - yet Homura is the only one capable of acknowledging Madokas existance (other than Madokas brother). It seemed like she was "removed" - in the same way Mami was removed from the universe when she died (nobody knew she was dead except for Madoka and Sakaya - or she had no friends and I'm completely on the wrong track here). So she must have existed up to that point - only her existence as a human had been removed from everyones minds.
Mami wasn't exactly removed.  Knowledge of her still existed.  Only her physical self disappeared.
It was mentioned that no-one would really know of her death.  There was mention later on that "a 3rd year student was mysteriously missing" (along with the disappearance of Sayaka).

The story just says that her life had no beginning or end.  It doesn't say anything about why her change caused her mother not to give birth to her >_>
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(27/04/2011 06:15 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  
(27/04/2011 01:04 AM)S7* Wrote:  This is a good point. Interestingly, with Mami, Sayaka and Kyoko returning it obviously indicates time has been rewound - yet Homura is the only one capable of acknowledging Madokas existance (other than Madokas brother). It seemed like she was "removed" - in the same way Mami was removed from the universe when she died (nobody knew she was dead except for Madoka and Sakaya - or she had no friends and I'm completely on the wrong track here). So she must have existed up to that point - only her existence as a human had been removed from everyones minds.
Mami wasn't exactly removed.  Knowledge of her still existed.  Only her physical self disappeared.
It was mentioned that no-one would really know of her death.  There was mention later on that "a 3rd year student was mysteriously missing" (along with the disappearance of Sayaka).

The story just says that her life had no beginning or end.  It doesn't say anything about why her change caused her mother not to give birth to her >_>

I wasn't too clear about Mami's death.. obviously.

Another thought: Madoka's ribbon is proof that she existed - and the fact Homura still has it in the new universe seems to indicate she might know more than she's giving away after the rewrite. Otherwise she'd surely be freaked out that a mysterious ribbon appeared in her hair. Not to mention the others would have said something about it - so the fact she had the ribbon on without something being said about it must mean it was normal for her to wear it... so when did she get it?

Back to the question - no there doesn't seem to be a reasonable explanation and on second thought removal couldn't make sense.
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Eh, reason why I generally don't like to read too deep into things.
Especially time travel.  Often opens up a can of worms.  I'm personally not a big fan of it being used in fiction.

I looked back at episode 3 when Mami is killed and some red string-like stuff seems to go through Homura's hands - but it doesn't really show any resemblance to a ribbon though.

Also the scene where Homura finds the ribbon seems to be one of the "middle timeline" scenes (when, originally, Kyoko is killed by Mami), but Homura doesn't have the glasses or tied hair in that situation.  One would've expected that the world would revert to a pre-Homura-time-travel state, rather than something in the middle.

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(26/04/2011 09:50 PM)eKusoshisut0 Wrote:  :O
Last time I checked I was closest to ProperBritish, not anymore obviously. I've never really understood the MAL compatibilty. I can only assume that it means wee have the same tastes in anime or something similar..?

It's just a simple correlation, rescaled from [-1,1] to [0,100].  I think this rescaling is dumb and causes misunderstandings, but that's a discussion for another day.

(26/04/2011 10:48 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  If you want to think of it that way, then yes.  I personally like to think of it as yet-another-stupid-statistic-to-try-to-encourage-social-networking - perhaps something more interesting than a "you have 9001 friends, 53.536% of which are female, 15.48% do not know their gender" etc.

Well, pretty much.  But it's somewhat more interesting than how many friends you have on facebook.
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Finished~

I would probably say it's around 8.5 for me, I'll just round up to 9 on MAL, like what I traditionally do.  Though I was retarded, and watched episode 11 and 12 before 10 because I miss clicked, and didn't notice until after the end.  That could have possibly impacted on my enjoyment of the ending.  The normal episodes are consistently good pretty much the whole way, and the ending is decent.

Imo this actually > Saya, the normal stuff were superior to Saya, and the ending was of a similar level.  Well, I have Saya on 8 currently.




(22/04/2011 02:26 AM)Sparker Wrote:  ^
So if Saya no Uta is like school girls being cute and falling in love. Then Madoka is totally about 5 best friends who team up with each other to fight evil that threatens their homes.

No.  It would be about 5 best friends who sit under sky of sunshine, rainbows and butterflies, happily debating the costs and benefits of magic.


(26/04/2011 05:24 AM)S7* Wrote:  My anime of the season? I'm not sure. Kimi ni Todoke 2nd is really good, and arguably more consistant compared to PMMM.

I though Madoka was pretty consistent.  I mean, all of the episodes are reasonably interesting to say the least.  Unlike lets say Bakemonogatari, which had some episodes so boring (4,5) it managed to put me to sleep twice.

(25/04/2011 03:36 AM)krystabegnalie Wrote:  
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and as it was aired in a Good Friday, does this scene reminds me of someone holy?
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Reminds me of ef a tale of memories (which was also made by shaft).

(27/04/2011 06:15 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  
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I did mention before that Homura's time travel seems to be somewhat imperfect, a while back.  I noticed 2 things:
1. Madoka gets stronger in each cycle
2. Madoka remembers part of the previous time in a dream

Their explanation for the first sounds similar to the quantum universe theory of time travel, except that the travel of time seems to have an effect on others, not just the time traveller.  It's some poo poo about "being centered around someone" though it sounds like bullchocolate since I don't see how intentions cause any magic build up, but anyway, wee'll go along with their explanation.
My theory is that #2 above is explained by the imperfection of time travel.  So if Madoka traverses through time to screw up the world, the time travel still leaves traces of "pre-time travel" (if that concept even makes sense; multidimensional time?) around the place.
It explains a number of possibilities, such as how Homura even got the ribbon at the end - if Madoka, after the rewrite, never existed in the human plane, it would've been impossible for Homura to have ever met her, let alone take one of her ribbons (and wee'll not go into stuff like how the ribbon was created etc).  Although Madoka's change didn't affect Homura's personal timeline, the imperfection does.

Probably better not to think too deep into it.  Lol, I'm trying to apply something else (spoiler)'s theories into this in my head, it's semi-working.


(27/04/2011 01:04 AM)S7* Wrote:  
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This is a good point. Interestingly, with Mami, Sayaka and Kyoko returning it obviously indicates time has been rewound - yet Homura is the only one capable of acknowledging Madokas existance (other than Madokas brother). It seemed like she was "removed" - in the same way Mami was removed from the universe when she died (nobody knew she was dead except for Madoka and Sakaya - or she had no friends and I'm completely on the wrong track here). So she must have existed up to that point - only her existence as a human had been removed from everyones minds.

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Homura still remembers because she's not part of the "new world", she just used her powers to get herself there.  That's also why she still has the ribbon.  Everyone else from the "new world" don't know Madoka because she doesn't have a physical existence in that world.

As for Mami, pretty much what zinga said, she didn't get "removed" or anything like that, she just had no contacts

(27/04/2011 01:04 AM)S7* Wrote:  
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The story just says that her life had no beginning or end.  It doesn't say anything about why her change caused her mother not to give birth to her >_>

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My explanation is that there could be only 1 copy of a person in any world at one time.  Madoka isn't really in the "new world" in as a living human being like everyone else.  But she is there, removed from the axis of time, as some sort of omni-present existence that's everywhere at anytime.  So because there is already a Madoka, there cannot be another.
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(29/04/2011 10:43 PM)Assassinator Wrote:  
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My explanation is that there could be only 1 copy of a person in any world at one time.  Madoka isn't really in the "new world" in as a living human being like everyone else.  But she is there, removed from the axis of time, as some sort of omni-present existence that's everywhere at anytime.  So because there is already a Madoka, there cannot be another.
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Now that I think of it, Homura travelling back doesn't cause a duplication - she replaces herself in the new dimension of time.  So I guess that makes sense, though it's a rather weird concept, especially combined with someone who is around at all times, and the fact that it must've had a serious impact on her mother's psychology somehow (it's not like most people have children on a whim).
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