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Didn't work out.

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couldnt you have waited?

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(23/06/2012 07:07 AM)ProperBritish Wrote:  couldnt you have waited?

what he said ↑

i mean.. you could use the igpu for the meantime Emptyone

though, its still better than my card . lol 
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(23/06/2012 07:07 AM)ProperBritish Wrote:  couldnt you have waited?

Meh, technically I could have. But for the performance difference vs price, and the fact that the main game I play is StarCraft 2, a 570 is fine for me.

Plus I plan on buying the Galaxy S 3 on Wednesday, so I don't want to blow too much cash.

A $300 card is fine for me. It's the most expensive single card I've purchased. (My 5770s combined cost me a tad more but were purchased at different time)

I'll post the final build soon.

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(23/06/2012 01:21 PM)Kuu Wrote:  A $300 card is fine for me. It's the most expensive single card I've purchased. (My 5770s combined cost me a tad more but were purchased at different time)

I'll post the final build soon.

Wait, why didn't you just keep the 5770x2?  That should be more than sufficient for SC2.
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(23/06/2012 03:02 PM)Assassinator Wrote:  
(23/06/2012 01:21 PM)Kuu Wrote:  A $300 card is fine for me. It's the most expensive single card I've purchased. (My 5770s combined cost me a tad more but were purchased at different time)

I'll post the final build soon.

Wait, why didn't you just keep the 5770x2?  That should be more than sufficient for SC2.

Mostly encoding reasons. The 570 is 1.5-2x fasterAnd while I say I mainly play SC2, I do play Blacklight, Crysis, Doom, Stalker, and any new games that look cool.

The 570 generates less heat, and I can run my 4 screens all the time. My 5770s I had to switch to crossfire when I want to game, and turn it off for other things. (Crossfire turns off 1 of the card's outputs, so a maximum if 3 monitors while in crossfire mode).

ATIs drivers are also spoon and always crash for me. And not all games are optimized for Crossfire or SLI. StarCraft 2 isn't. Before an recent update Crossfire would actually crash the game. So most the time I was practically on a single 5770.

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(23/06/2012 04:30 PM)Kuu Wrote:  The 570 generates less heat, and I can run my 4 screens all the time. My 5770s I had to switch to crossfire when I want to game, and turn it off for other things. (Crossfire turns off 1 of the card's outputs, so a maximum if 3 monitors while in crossfire mode).

ATIs drivers are also spoon and always crash for me. And not all games are optimized for Crossfire or SLI. StarCraft 2 isn't. Before an recent update Crossfire would actually crash the game. So most the time I was practically on a single 5770.

Why did you choose to get 2 5770's in the first place?  Dual GPU setups are known to be crappy and annoying, should have just gotten a single 5870/5850.


(23/06/2012 04:30 PM)Kuu Wrote:  Mostly encoding reasons.

Wait wait wait... you're going to use your GPU to encode?  GPU encoders deliver like totally crap quality (at least 2 years ago they were, can't have changed that much).  A lot of the advanced stuff cannot really be made massively parallel so GPU encoders pretty much skip on them.

You may as well just use x264 and use the 'superfast' preset or something if you don't care about quality and just want shit done quickly.  It won't be as fast as GPU, but fast enough.
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(23/06/2012 11:33 PM)Assassinator Wrote:  Why did you choose to get 2 5770's in the first place?  Dual GPU setups are known to be crappy and annoying, should have just gotten a single 5870/5850.
At the time the 5770 I bought was the same day at launch and was at least $150+ and I didn't make much money at the time. I got a second 5770 maybe a year later for $100. So at the time, given the money available, a 5770 to start was cheaper.

(23/06/2012 04:30 PM)Kuu Wrote:  Mostly encoding reasons.
(23/06/2012 11:33 PM)Assassinator Wrote:  Wait wait wait... you're going to use your GPU to encode?  GPU encoders deliver like totally crap quality (at least 2 years ago they were, can't have changed that much).  A lot of the advanced stuff cannot really be made massively parallel so GPU encoders pretty much skip on them.

You may as well just use x264 and use the 'superfast' preset or something if you don't care about quality and just want shit done quickly.  It won't be as fast as GPU, but fast enough.

You're right. Since I started using Nvidia's CUDA back in the day I learned that their GPU acceleration is much better than CPU. But at the trade off of quality. But speed is more important for what I'm doing. I wouldn't call it 'archive-able' at all. Plus my CPU heats up much more than my GPU in the past, and since my PC is in my room encoding while I sleep, less heat is better.

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But I thought you just got the 570...?  You know that Intel's QuickSync is far superior to any CUDA based encoder, right?  Interestingly, I believe that a study found that GPU encoding actually draws more power than CPU encoding...
My HD5670 plays SC2 fine at High to Ultra settings, but then I only have one monitor and go at lower resolutions.  I would've thought a single 5770 to be sufficient, especially if you don't need all the eye candy.  Actually, the integrated GPU in the Ivy Bridge CPUs play SC2 fine on low-medium settings, though for some reason, the game seems to crash on me at times when using the iGPU.
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(25/06/2012 04:14 PM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  But I thought you just got the 570...?  You know that Intel's QuickSync is far superior to any CUDA based encoder, right?  Interestingly, I believe that a study found that GPU encoding actually draws more power than CPU encoding...

Really? QuickSync is actually good? I was very skeptical. Does QuickSync support 10-bit decoding? Last I heard CUDA didn't (don't know if that changed) so I'm curious.

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