(12/06/2012 10:01 AM)Slushba132 Wrote:  They are probably really great at what they do because they spend all their time doing it as opposed to talking to people about doing it

There is some truth to that, but I've never met someone that spends all their day saying that they'll do something.

The reason why things appear to get "finished" is because they didn't even give you a notion of where they were.

Usually these devs are older than us.

(12/06/2012 11:03 AM)Kuu Wrote:  Jesus.

Oh man definitely.

(12/06/2012 11:52 AM)DataKRASH Wrote:  There's absolutely no one I want to ask about anything.  That's probably because I like to figure things out for myself.

I was talking to a friend one time, and I asked them if they ever asked anyone for help when they had reached a rough spot with *******.  They told me, "Yeah, I had one problem with something, so I asked someone, 'how do you make ******?' and their response was for me to fudge off.  Now I don't need help with anything regarding **** ********, because I know it like the back of my hand, since I figured it out myself."

That person also said, that people ask them for help all time regarding what they do, but their response is always, "Figure it out yourself".  Which I thought was hash at first, but it makes sense, because if they've spent hours, days, weeks, months, and years, doing what they do with absolutely no help.  Then anyone else can do it too.

I agree with you in the context of asking how to learn a topic, as to how to approach a body of topics is a different matter.

I think the thing that people need to share with others is WHERE they get their information from or WHAT they should look at specifically to understand a topic, moreso than how they did something (this does nothing for the educational aspect for a person most of the time).

A good example are some people that I helped in my later object oriented class (I went over my code with them) are having difficulties now in our data abstractions and structures class over the object oriented programming part. Apparently they haven't learned anything and are asking me the same/trivial questions about the stuff they should've learnt in the later class (example, how does a constructor work, which I would say is one of the core things you should understand about OOP if not programming).

It just surprises me that school is so skewed in representing what someone actually knows, some people just answer questions and others understand them, the numbers never differentiate between that. I always try to avoid this trap, you can usually tell when you're just repeating something what someone else said and when you're actually making the words for your own.

While this may sound a bit hypocritical pertaining to my durr google it post, it's kind of a different matter if the person doesn't want to understand something and simply just wants an answer to it, usually understanding the intention of someone is hard, but usually you can tell them apart by the ones who keep on asking questions and the ones who are satisfied with one answer.

(12/06/2012 02:11 PM)weterr123 Wrote:  

(12/06/2012 11:31 AM)eKusoshisut0 Wrote:  Definitely Nikola Tesla.

^^That would be very interesting...

(This post was last modified: 12/06/2012 02:35 PM by Tetris999.)