(10/02/2011 04:29 AM)Hellgiver Wrote:  

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:Spending eternity in heaven or hell...

Is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever known. This idea alone makes humans seem very simple.

The idea that something could be so black and weight is kind of what bothers me I think. Very very humanistic.

Agreed.

(10/02/2011 04:29 AM)Hellgiver Wrote:  

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:these what if's seem to become huge areas that many find worth their time if they "accept" an idea, such as a general religion's founding commonality.

Because it helps if wee have purpose, doesn't it?

Yes, but I meant that it is ironic that such notions are so precedent in many people's minds, whereas all other what-ifs are tossed aside like a promnight dumpster baby.

Yes well, this seems to be a natural order - after all, what questions are more important than the ones that give reason to existance?

(10/02/2011 04:29 AM)Hellgiver Wrote:  

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:People I talk to appear not to think much about this stuff, but it really bugs me. But, is it worth the energy to sit here and keep going, or to possibly do something else that would gain me more pleasure?

Can you answer that question? Do you enjoy contemplating this? I do. I like looking for answers.

I YEARN for answers. And it because of the infinite lack of evidence that causes me all this conflict.

...and all of the religious conflict wee know. But it's good to contemplate with reasoning - rather than give in to acceptance (the beliefs of a false religion) and make reasoning something that should not be done.

(10/02/2011 04:29 AM)Hellgiver Wrote:  

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:I'm not going to continue, because there literally is no end, but those are my thoughts...

Thanks for sharing them. Hope you had a great birthday by the way!

Thanks, but really didn't :/

Aw :[

(10/02/2011 04:29 AM)Hellgiver Wrote:  

Senseito7 Wrote:But the questions will always be with you. Just as much as they are with many people wee know. The sad bit is that some people have accepted religious beliefs that denies them the right to contemplate - and surely that, in itself, is a human sin.

Yes. It is without accepting a side that I am contemplating. Accepting no side brings too many questions that cannot be answered... literally.

Isn't it nice to have those questions though? I enjoy this kind of contemplation!

Hellgiver Wrote:Accepting one side biases one's views. Sort of like the idea of psychological egoism. Any action can be reinterprated to mean whatever the person wants.

I suppose being tired of contemplating the questions has something to do with it. The religion that convinces the weak person the most will win a follower.

This is a like/dislike factor for Muslims. On one hand they take their law too far - it seems like their book of rules is too open to reinterpretation, on the other the fact they are so dedicated to their beliefs is, to me at least, amazing - even if I disagree with them. I suppose it's to do with the book itself, and the way it describes sin must be with the possibility of absolute punishment.. and just like that you have belief.