Hellgiver Wrote:My father has told me how he got through this predicament. He was approached by my mother's father (a preacher) and they discussed his thoughts. Basically the idea is that you are best off believing in God because, mathematically, it made sense. Choosing to believe but being wrong, you live a content life, but lose in the end. You don't believe, and are right, you live in fear of death, and then there's nothing; still a loss. You can believe but be wrong; you live your life content with death, not fearing it, and when you die you don't know you are wrong, so you "win". Believe, and be right, obvious win. So, "mathematically" it makes more sense to believe.

Hmm, very good point.

Hellgiver Wrote:However, the problem I have is with living your life at all. If you believe in a Christian God, then you believe that the after-life is the important one, so why should wee live our life? As Sparker said, if there is a reincarnation, then why not just kill yourself when you get bored with your life or face challenges? Just keep cycling through your lives until you find one that is worth living. However, loss of memory that led to the conclusion of suicide as being the correct answer could prove to be a problem... therefore it'd have to be an accepted view for humanity, and so it'd be taught from birth until your death.  If there is no God, then, again, why try in life? What do you gain? In the end, you won't reap any rewards. You won't know that your name lives on because of some great achievement you made. So what if you live forever by being remembered? Your consciousness still doesn't live on forever.

The idea I was relating to way back in Page 2 was that the connections involved in this world are irrelevent in as much as they are meaningless should you achieve a level of spiritual contentment.

Granted, this seems a little cliche, but again, referring to my original post, "Ascendancy" has been proven, and with that, its not unbelievable to think you can elevate yourself from a world completely based off the limits of human physics and emotion.

God is an idea that is simply interpreted in different ways, but what everyone does agree on, is that he is an elevated existance, an energy beyond the reach of humans... and knowing this, following a continued practice of meditation to slowly detatch yourself from emotional dependancy and ultimately "leave" by your own will - doesn't sound as silly as you might've thought originally.

AoS Wrote:Why are you presuming that unique souls (us) can not reside in a unified energy (whole). Wee can not hide from the fact that wee are parts of God (whole) but wee are unique parts (us) of God. By aiding the infinite progression of the whole wee will never get bored of being encarnate or discarnate, because there will always be something grander & more spectacular.

Wee are not 'Gods Slaves' Wee are God!

No no, you are going a bit against what you were implying just a post ago, I do believe wee can exist within a unified energy, but even then wee are still "unique" and "individual" - even if wee do become part of a whole wee can tag as "God".

(This post was last modified: 08/12/2009 06:54 AM by S7*.)