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RE: My views on God and Life
As you guys have noted, it was more of a stream of consciousness post than it was a fluid essay that built one atop another. I was just letting whatever crossed my mind, as I was addressing one point, be typed. There is some fluidity, but it was mostly to bring up a few thoughts I've had, and seeking your input.

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:Is the "Pleasure Machine" really bad?  Most people don't like the idea, but who knows, you could be in one right now...

Don't really get your "desire-fulfillment" point.  But happiness can be relative - eg what makes a well off person happy is different to what makes a not so well off person happy.



But you see, I wasn't bringing in the idea of Skepticism. The idea that wee can't know anything past our own experiences, so wee couldn't really know if wee aren't in a "pleasure machine" right now; this more addresses reality than anything else. I was moving into an idea about what reality is, and if it is fair for all who experience their own reality. That, then was supposed to make you think back on the point of whether God intended such "unfairness" to occur for a reason. And if there was any way to balance it, perhaps through reincarnation, at which point, the less fortunate get a chance to succeed, or perhaps they'd be given another chance to relive that life until they get it right. It wasn't stated clearly, I see, but I was kind of leading one to consider those "arguments".

As for why I brought up desire-fulfillment, I believe one of my main intentions was to say that perhaps having faith or believing in some sort of balance might be essential to contentment, which would fulfill both the desire-fulfillment accounts of well-being, as well as the mental state account.  Also, if people were not as well off as someone else, then they could never achieve a sense of well-being through a desire-fulfillment account. They'd have a "cursed" life. You could argue that perhaps they are content with their lives through a means of their mental state, or that they are still fulfilling desires, such as having a family, having a job, helping the sick, etc, but that would not take into account that they still aren't being treated "fairly" as is seen nowadays. The idea of "fairness" would be that everyone has an equal opportunity as everyone else. Well, some just never will have that opportunity. How about those born missing limbs? Won't ever be in the Olympics using real legs, but instead perhaps they'd be in the Special Olympics using whatever assistance such as a wheel chair or a prosthetic leg, or something, and then they'd again be using slightly different equipment, which might favor the person who could afford a better tool, or he also had weakened muscles vs the person who is just missing a leg. There is always unfairness, and I think that gets me the most.  If there is some form of balance, then there should at least be a form of reincarnation. That is the only belief I can see that might even the playing field for this argument.

Again, my stream of consciousness made me forget to include those details XD  Had just woke up when I wrote the post.

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(This post was last modified: 02/12/2009 06:07 AM by Hellgiver.)
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My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 02/12/2009, 05:00 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 02/12/2009, 05:32 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - roberth - 02/12/2009, 05:34 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - ZiNgA BuRgA - 02/12/2009, 05:35 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 02/12/2009 05:58 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - ZiNgA BuRgA - 02/12/2009, 06:03 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 02/12/2009, 06:17 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 02/12/2009, 06:06 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - diego - 02/12/2009, 06:08 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 02/12/2009, 06:17 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 02/12/2009, 06:15 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - roberth - 02/12/2009, 07:01 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Method - 02/12/2009, 07:03 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Mr. Shizzy - 02/12/2009, 09:04 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - hecaitomix - 02/12/2009, 09:57 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Cirehpsa - 02/12/2009, 11:00 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Kchan - 02/12/2009, 11:10 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - theEvilOne - 02/12/2009, 11:19 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Kchan - 02/12/2009, 11:44 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 02/12/2009, 04:03 PM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 02/12/2009, 11:43 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - AoS - 03/12/2009, 08:58 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - roberth - 02/12/2009, 12:11 PM
RE: My views on God and Life - Kchan - 02/12/2009, 02:00 PM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 02/12/2009, 01:39 PM
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RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 03/12/2009, 09:48 AM
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RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 03/12/2009, 10:05 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - AoS - 05/12/2009, 05:39 AM
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RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 05/12/2009, 06:26 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 05/12/2009, 06:26 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 05/12/2009, 06:30 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 05/12/2009, 06:38 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 05/12/2009, 06:46 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 05/12/2009, 07:06 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 05/12/2009, 07:32 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Sparker - 05/12/2009, 07:38 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 05/12/2009, 07:42 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Sparker - 05/12/2009, 07:43 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Tetris999 - 06/12/2009, 01:07 PM
RE: My views on God and Life - AoS - 06/12/2009, 07:57 PM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 07/12/2009, 09:26 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - theEvilOne - 07/12/2009, 02:18 PM
RE: My views on God and Life - AoS - 08/12/2009, 06:11 AM
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RE: My views on God and Life - AoS - 08/12/2009, 06:48 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - feinicks - 08/12/2009, 06:29 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 08/12/2009, 06:39 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - S7* - 08/12/2009, 06:49 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - AoS - 08/12/2009, 06:55 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 08/12/2009, 07:16 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - theEvilOne - 08/12/2009, 08:27 AM
RE: My views on God and Life - Hellgiver - 08/12/2009, 01:56 PM
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