My main problem in life-

Is there a god?

Without a doubt, this is an overall recognized problem. In fact, one could say that this is the ONLY problem of life. If it were solved, would come to an understanding. If there is a god then I should pursue only life that would best fit to his plan. In other words, it is looking for someone else to be our master. However, to me, the idea of ceasing to exist is weird. Why do I fear it so much? If I fear it, I spend my time on earth afraid of my impending demise. So, if I don't believe in a god, I would have to acknowledge a distinctive, finite end to my own existence. Thus, should I do anything with my time? Why does it matter if I am an active member of society? In all seriousness, how would wee have any effect? But, what would that entail? This would lead to one giving up on life completely. For one to rationalize whether one is desirable over another, one has to base it on how much effort something is worth. Would it be worth my effort to do "_____". In a mathematical sense, wee might be looking at it from the view that it is worth our time to do anything. Some might feel that there is an extent to which they are willing to push for something. Why would one truly accept an idea of immortality? If such a god exists, how is it fair for him expect so much "faith" from us? What is he accomplishing by doing this? This would imply that our own thoughts humanize god in a way that many religions claim he is above. So, would this mean that the meaning of our life is the meaning of God's life? Such life would imply an end and a beginning, but a person of religion might counter that by turning it into a win for them because it is showing just how fallible wee truly are. I could see that being an argument that would not achieve a suitable end.


So, is it worth our time to address this question? Maybe to some degree... how much of a chance do I perceive as this having a relevant factor to the existing reality? This would move into another huge question of reality. How do wee properly interpret it? I cannot properly figure this out. If I reject god, I might be coming to a second pair of choices, one of which as been mentioned: why should I even continue? or what is this all for? I think one would have to start looking toward the ideas of the beginning of the universe. I know this is an overarching question... if it were ever actually answered, what then? Wee'd know exactly what to do. If wee knew for a fact that wee were just pawns, or if wee knew for an absolute fact that wee were (forced) members of a specific group. Then wee would have to weigh what wee think will happen upon disobedience vs what would happen if wee obeyed. Such a society, once again, would have to look at their views on something(one) saving them. I cannot see any reality in which this debate did not occur, unless it proved that there were no god. Laughable at how much this ACTUALLY could ever happen. How can you ever, without a doubt, prove that god does not exist? "Absence of proof isn't proof of absence..." I remember that cliche. Again, how can you argue this? It is impossible. No matter what you do, there is always an unknown. How can you ever really "know"? Even if you yourself were God, how do you answer? Is the answer of an "existence" I cannot imagine, due to my own species' weakness? Such idea of a parallel universe... another field that you might stop at if you placed enough weight on its contribution... contribution of what you may ask? Well...

Do you think it is worth the energy to think into it further? It is impossible to know. It is hard to deal with the idea that this all came - and I snickered at this worth's derivative - "naturally". Is it worth my energy to look at one or the other? No matter what existence wee are in, wee will have unkowns. No matter what you are certain of at that point, you would still even be unable to you might be the pawn of yet another, more powerful being. Doubt... that is (or might be) mankind's greatest enemy... Do wee sit there and doubt what wee are told or do wee "just go on". Some "seem" to have come to a conclusion. How does it not bother them? This "what if" stuff. It is a very pervasive idea in my life. Some scoff at it, but the lack of evidence is truly annoying. And why do I find that annoying? Is there a biological explanation of that? If wee could prove one or the other, it would certainly be a "step"... though the idea at this point is not that there is an actual tangible end. Spending eternity in heaven or hell... these what if's seem to become huge areas that many find worth their time if they "accept" an idea, such as a general religion's founding commonality. People I talk to appear not to think much about this stuff, but it really bugs me. But, is it worth the energy to sit here and keep going, or to possibly do something else that would gain me more pleasure? I'm not going to continue, because there literally is no end, but those are my thoughts... what I do know is I feel like doing something else. I'll just go with what I "know" for now. Gonna get a soda...

Your an interesting man Hellgiver. But in my current state i can't really give my own proper thoughts an opinions.


Really though im not a religious person so is don't think about this sort of thing that much. When I do though I can say it doesn't really bother me as it does you.

Whether a god exists or not doesn't change the way im going to live.

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:Spending eternity in heaven or hell...

Is the biggest load of bullshit I've ever known. This idea alone makes humans seem very simple.

The idea that something could be so black and weight is kind of what bothers me I think. Very very humanistic.

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:these what if's seem to become huge areas that many find worth their time if they "accept" an idea, such as a general religion's founding commonality.

Because it helps if wee have purpose, doesn't it?

Yes, but I meant that it is ironic that such notions are so precedent in many people's minds, whereas all other what-ifs are tossed aside like a promnight dumpster baby.

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:People I talk to appear not to think much about this stuff, but it really bugs me. But, is it worth the energy to sit here and keep going, or to possibly do something else that would gain me more pleasure?

Can you answer that question? Do you enjoy contemplating this? I do. I like looking for answers.

I YEARN for answers. And it because of the infinite lack of evidence that causes me all this conflict.

Senseito7 Wrote:

Hellgiver Wrote:I'm not going to continue, because there literally is no end, but those are my thoughts...

Thanks for sharing them. Hope you had a great birthday by the way!

Thanks, but really didn't :/

Senseito7 Wrote:But the questions will always be with you. Just as much as they are with many people wee know. The sad bit is that some people have accepted religious beliefs that denies them the right to contemplate - and surely that, in itself, is a human sin.

Yes. It is without accepting a side that I am contemplating. Accepting no side brings too many questions that cannot be answered... literally. Accepting one side biases one's views. Sort of like the idea of psychological egoism. Any action can be reinterprated to mean whatever the person wants. Will respond to others later. Sleep. Night.