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MehHakker Wrote:
MICk3Y Wrote:I mean what is Xvid and Divx?? Tried reading once but never understood it :/

They are both different types of video encoding.

DivX and XviD are both video codecs. A difference being that DivX is proprietary, while XviD is freeware. I think XviD is actually tested to give better results than DivX.

Xvid and DivX both uses the MPEG4 ASP (Advanced Simple Profile) compression, as compared to the x264 codec, which follows the newer MPEG4 AVC (Advanced Video Coding) standard, aka H.264 standard. So XviD and DivX are not as advanced as H.264.

Contrary to popular saying, XviD and DivX are not actually video formats. The video format is MPEG4 ASP. XviD and DivX just encode into MPEG4 ASP. Codec ≠ video format. So a DVD player that can play ASP (commonly known as DivX compliant DVD player) should also be able to play XviD, (and 3ivX and quicktime 6 and others as well) although it might not be able to decode all the special stuff that you can do with XviD.

Most of the non-official (like fansubs, DVD scene releases) AVI stuff you'll find out there probably uses XviD. Most official (like trailers from game companies) AVI stuff you find probably uses DivX.

Most MKV stuff you find out there probably uses x264.

But ofcourse, AVI and MKV are not restricted to these codecs only. You can theoretically stick almost everything in MKV.

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Senseito Sakura Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:h.264 is better, if you're talking about that.

I only get Xvid cause it works on my DVD player, thus I can watch it on my large screen TV.

hai ~desuu

I only download HD Releases if the title is favorably better with the quality increase. Not that they all would.... but its like saying Toei Animation should have HD Releases like CoMiX Wave Animation - its just crazy talk! ^____^

I have a relatively large computer screen (21inch), so 640x480 on full screen looks pretty blurred for me. So HD is always better.


Senseito Sakura Wrote:I watch my Anime on my PSP in the night, in the dark, alone in my room.

All my focus is drawn to that, with not an artifact in sight because of quality conversion, it is a 110% Pure Experience.

I also like to watch stuff at night (actually, any time as long as noone is around, which is mostly at night).

Noone to disturb me, so i can concentrate more, and thus enjoy more. I'm the kind of person who gets easily distracted.

I'm REALLY REALLY picky when it comes to watching stuff. Even more picky with movies than with anime. I never watch movies with people around.

Only not on PSP (small screen :\ ), but on computer and plasma TV instead.
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I generally DL stack.  It's impossible to do either through this connection, so massive queuing at the library (or exploits).

Because I save up, and don't have the room on the HDD, it's all on DVDs (over 200 of them).
Some are copied, some I have cause they were easy to obtain (probably will never watch them though)
These are my complete series'
Spoiler for list:
2x2 = Shinobuden
3x3 Eyes OVA 1 + 2
Ah! My Goddess TV + OVA + Movie
Ai Yori Aoshi + Enishi
Air + Summer Special + Movie
Beck
Berserk
Bottle Fairy
Black Cat
Bleach (88eps)
Blue Gender
Blue Submarine No. 6
Burn Up W + Excess
Chobits + Special
Chrno Crusade
Cowboy Bebop
Death Note
DN Angel
DNA^2
Earth Maiden Arjuna
Elfen Lied
Ergo Proxy
Excel Saga
Final Fantasy - Legend of the Crystals
Final Fantasy VII – Advent Children (movie)
Final Fantasy VII - Dirge of Cerberus (movie)
FLCL
Fruits Basket
Full Metal Alchemist
Full Metal Panic! + 2nd Raid
Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
Full Moon wo Sagachocolatee
Get Backers
Great Teacher Onizuka
Green Green TV + OVA
Gunslinger Girl
.hack Dusk, Luminality, Roots, Sign
Hanaukyo Maids + La Verite
Hellsing
Hikaru no Go
I My Me! Strawberry Eggs
I’’s Pure
Kare Kano
Kiddy Grade
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Kita-he Diamond Dust Drops
Last Exile
Love Hina + Specials + Again
Mai Hime
Maburaho
Macross Zero
Maria Sama ga Miteru
Mezzo DSA
Midori no Hibi
Mouse
Neon Genesis Evangelion + Movies
Noir
Onegai Teacher + OVA
Onegai Twins + OVA
Pita Ten
Pretear
Puni Puni Poemy
Ranma 1/2
Rizelmine + 2nd season
Rozen Maiden + Traumend
Rurouni Kenshin
Samurai Champloo
Samurai Girl Real Bout High School
School Rumble
Scrapped Princess
Serial Experiments Lain
Shaman King
Shingetsutan Tsukihime
Steel Angel Kurumi + Encore
Stratos 4
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tenchi Muyo! OVA + OVA3 + some other ones
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
To Heart
Tsubasa Chronicle
Vandread + Vandread 2
Virus Buster Serge
Vision of Escaflowne
Witch Hunter Robin
Yumeria
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Assassinator Wrote:DivX and XviD are both video codecs. A difference being that DivX is proprietary, while XviD is freeware. I think XviD is actually tested to give better results than DivX.

Xvid and DivX both uses the MPEG4 ASP (Advanced Simple Profile) compression, as compared to the x264 codec, which follows the newer MPEG4 AVC (Advanced Video Coding) standard, aka H.264 standard. So XviD and DivX are not as advanced as H.264.

Contrary to popular saying, XviD and DivX are not actually video formats. The video format is MPEG4 ASP. XviD and DivX just encode into MPEG4 ASP. Codec ≠ video format. So a DVD player that can play ASP (commonly known as DivX compliant DVD player) should also be able to play XviD, (and 3ivX and quicktime 6 and others as well).

Most of the non-official (like fansubs, DVD scene releases) AVI stuff you'll find out there probably uses XviD. Most official (like trailers from game companies) AVI stuff you find probably uses DivX.

Most MKV stuff you find out there probably uses x264.

But ofcourse, AVI and MKV are not restricted to these codecs only. You can theoretically stick almost everything in MKV.

... ...

Wow that cleared a lot of my queries ^_^

But why are there so many Formats of the same encode then!?

Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito Sakura Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:h.264 is better, if you're talking about that.

I only get Xvid cause it works on my DVD player, thus I can watch it on my large screen TV.

hai ~desuu

I only download HD Releases if the title is favorably better with the quality increase. Not that they all would.... but its like saying Toei Animation should have HD Releases like CoMiX Wave Animation - its just crazy talk! ^____^

I have a relatively large computer screen (21inch), so 640x480 on full screen looks pretty blurred for me. So HD is always better.

I wish I had a nice big screen >_<

Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito Sakura Wrote:I watch my Anime on my PSP in the night, in the dark, alone in my room.

All my focus is drawn to that, with not an artifact in sight because of quality conversion, it is a 110% Pure Experience.

I also like to watch stuff at night (actually, any time as long as noone is around, which is mostly at night).

Noone to disturb me, so i can concentrate more, and thus enjoy more. I'm the kind of person who gets easily distracted.

I'm REALLY REALLY picky when it comes to watching stuff. Even more picky with movies than with anime. I never watch movies with people around.

Only not on PSP (small screen :\ ), but on computer and plasma TV instead.

PSP does a surprisingly good job..... ......... .................. Plasma TV....... want =*_*=

As for entertainments, I don't get distracted easily.... BUT it depends on the title, if its something you can miss a bit of and forget about it - I must of dropped it already ^_^
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ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:I generally DL stack.  It's impossible to do either through this connection, so massive queuing at the library (or exploits).

Because I save up, and don't have the room on the HDD, it's all on DVDs (over 200 of them).
Some are copied, some I have cause they were easy to obtain (probably will never watch them though)
These are my complete series'
Spoiler for list:
2x2 = Shinobuden
3x3 Eyes OVA 1 + 2
Ah! My Goddess TV + OVA + Movie
Ai Yori Aoshi + Enishi
Air + Summer Special + Movie
Beck
Berserk
Bottle Fairy
Black Cat
Bleach (88eps)
Blue Gender
Blue Submarine No. 6
Burn Up W + Excess
Chobits + Special
Chrno Crusade
Cowboy Bebop
Death Note
DN Angel
DNA^2
Earth Maiden Arjuna
Elfen Lied
Ergo Proxy
Excel Saga
Final Fantasy - Legend of the Crystals
Final Fantasy VII – Advent Children (movie)
Final Fantasy VII - Dirge of Cerberus (movie)
FLCL
Fruits Basket
Full Metal Alchemist
Full Metal Panic! + 2nd Raid
Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu
Full Moon wo Sagachocolatee
Get Backers
Great Teacher Onizuka
Green Green TV + OVA
Gunslinger Girl
.hack Dusk, Luminality, Roots, Sign
Hanaukyo Maids + La Verite
Hellsing
Hikaru no Go
I My Me! Strawberry Eggs
I’’s Pure
Kare Kano
Kiddy Grade
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
Kita-he Diamond Dust Drops
Last Exile
Love Hina + Specials + Again
Mai Hime
Maburaho
Macross Zero
Maria Sama ga Miteru
Mezzo DSA
Midori no Hibi
Mouse
Neon Genesis Evangelion + Movies
Noir
Onegai Teacher + OVA
Onegai Twins + OVA
Pita Ten
Pretear
Puni Puni Poemy
Ranma 1/2
Rizelmine + 2nd season
Rozen Maiden + Traumend
Rurouni Kenshin
Samurai Champloo
Samurai Girl Real Bout High School
School Rumble
Scrapped Princess
Serial Experiments Lain
Shaman King
Shingetsutan Tsukihime
Steel Angel Kurumi + Encore
Stratos 4
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Phantasia
Tenchi Muyo! OVA + OVA3 + some other ones
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
To Heart
Tsubasa Chronicle
Vandread + Vandread 2
Virus Buster Serge
Vision of Escaflowne
Witch Hunter Robin
Yumeria

HOLY Spoon!!

Have you actually watched all of those!?!??!
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Senseito Sakura Wrote:Wow that cleared a lot of my queries ^_^

But why are there so many Formats of the same encode then!?

To make money. Lol.

Each company wants their own codec so that people will have to pay to use theirs, and so that they don't pay others to use others. If some company wants to use their codec, they will have to pay. So if a game has DivX stuff in it, they would have to pay the owners = $$$.

Microsoft have theirs, so does apply (quicktime), Nero (Nero digital video), DivX is proprietary too...


Senseito Sakura Wrote:PSP does a surprisingly good job..... ......... .................. Plasma TV....... want =*_*=

As for entertainments, I don't get distracted easily.... BUT it depends on the title, if its something you can miss a bit of and forget about it - I must of dropped it already ^_^

I'd probably prefer LCD (you can get higher definitions at least). At the time wee bought, LCD costs a crapload though.
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Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito Sakura Wrote:Wow that cleared a lot of my queries ^_^

But why are there so many Formats of the same encode then!?

To make money. Lol.

Each company wants their own codec so that people will have to pay to use theirs, and so that they don't pay others to use others. If some company wants to use their codec, they will have to pay. So if a game has DivX stuff in it, they would have to pay the owners = $$$.

Microsoft have theirs, so does apply (quicktime), Nero (Nero digital video), DivX is proprietary too...

*palmface*

So...... So.........

Well at least I haven't had to pay for a Video Codec yet ^^

Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito Sakura Wrote:PSP does a surprisingly good job..... ......... .................. Plasma TV....... want =*_*=

As for entertainments, I don't get distracted easily.... BUT it depends on the title, if its something you can miss a bit of and forget about it - I must of dropped it already ^_^

I'd probably prefer LCD (you can get higher definitions at least). At the time wee bought, LCD costs a crapload though.

Well yeah, prices have dropped somewhat and I've heard they don't suffer as much from Burn-Ins. But yeah...... one day :p
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Senseito Sakura Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:Each company wants their own codec so that people will have to pay to use theirs, and so that they don't pay others to use others. If some company wants to use their codec, they will have to pay. So if a game has DivX stuff in it, they would have to pay the owners = $$$.

Microsoft have theirs, so does apply (quicktime), Nero (Nero digital video), DivX is proprietary too...

*palmface*

So...... So.........

Well at least I haven't had to pay for a Video Codec yet ^^

It's not the viewer that pays. It's always the encoder. So whichever way, you won't be paying.

One reason why XviD and x264 are so popular with free encodes like fansubs. They are free. (Not like the company is going to sue a single person for illegally using their codec anyways. They make their money on companies.)


Senseito Sakura Wrote:Well yeah, prices have dropped somewhat and I've heard they don't suffer as much from Burn-Ins. But yeah...... one day :p

I'm interested in the OLED technology. Wonder when that'll become mainstream on the market.
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Assassinator Wrote:One reason why XviD and x264 are so popular with free encodes like fansubs. They are free. (Not like the company is going to use a single person for illegally using their codec anyways. They make their money on companies.)

Free-dom For the win!

Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito Sakura Wrote:Well yeah, prices have dropped somewhat and I've heard they don't suffer as much from Burn-Ins. But yeah...... one day :p

I'm interested in the OLED technology. Wonder when that'll become mainstream on the market.

It sounds really good, but the name of "Laser TV" got my interest more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_TV

"First audiences who were shown reference clips from popular movies reported that they were blown away by a Laser TV's hitherto unseen color-display prowess. Some even described it as being too intense to the point of seeming artificial."

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Senseito Sakura Wrote:Wow that cleared a lot of my queries ^_^

But why are there so many Formats of the same encode then!?

Oh, by the way, although they all use the general MPEG4 ASP format of compression, they're not all the same. Different codecs will give you different results.

So not "formats of same encode". Different "encodes of same format".



Senseito Sakura Wrote:It sounds really good, but the name of "Laser TV" got my interest more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_TV

"First audiences who were shown reference clips from popular movies reported that they were blown away by a Laser TV's hitherto unseen color-display prowess. Some even described it as being too intense to the point of seeming artificial."

WANT

It did say it'll be expensive though.

Sit back and see how everything works out :)
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Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito Sakura Wrote:It sounds really good, but the name of "Laser TV" got my interest more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_TV

"First audiences who were shown reference clips from popular movies reported that they were blown away by a Laser TV's hitherto unseen color-display prowess. Some even described it as being too intense to the point of seeming artificial."

WANT

It did say it'll be expensive though.

Sit back and see how everything works out :)

Apprarently it will be competitively priced over 60+" TVs
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