(20/04/2011 04:47 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  I often use it for searching for direct links.  Easy to get a hash off a torrent site, then paste the hash into a DDL search.
File names are just as predictable, so this "identifier" you're giving is really just unnecessarily duplicating info.

The search argument is PB's anyway, not mine.  I do not really see how it is more difficult at all to copy a whole file name and paste it into a search engine, than it is to copy the hash part of a file name, and paste that into a search engine.

So any added mechanism for searching would be just adding unnecessary info to me.

(20/04/2011 04:47 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  Computers can generate identifiers from filenames quite easily.  They can even append a hash or uniquifier to ensure uniqueness.

But that will be a waste of effort.  Because only the computer is ever going to read the segment ID anyway, no point in making it sensible.

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(20/04/2011 04:47 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  Because it seems that containers like MKV don't embed their own hash...
Only anime seems to be done that way anyway.  Other TV shows never seem to have hashes appended.  Most transfer protocols (torrent, TCP etc) have error detection anyway, so verifying integrity actually isn't terribly important.

It's not all that important, even if the transfer protocol doesn't have error detection.  I bet 90% of the people don't even know why it's there at all.

But yeah, wee're really going off topic.  The main reason is file integrity checking, I think wee both agree with that, that should be all there is to it.

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(20/04/2011 05:08 AM)Assassinator Wrote:  The search argument is PB's anyway, not mine.  I do not really see how it is more difficult at all to copy a whole file name and paste it into a search engine, than it is to copy the hash part of a file name, and paste that into a search engine.

I find files sometimes get renamed, eg spaces to underscores or vice versa etc, which means a direct copy doesn't always work.  Also, some search engines suck and try to find keyword matches, so if you only want a particular file, and you search the name, it will return results matching any word in the name.  Won't happen with a hash.

(20/04/2011 05:08 AM)Assassinator Wrote:  But that will be a waste of effort.  Because only the computer is ever going to read the segment ID anyway, no point in making it sensible.

There is as you may need to put in segment IDs, but not much.

(20/04/2011 05:08 AM)Assassinator Wrote:  It's not all that important, even if the transfer protocol doesn't have error detection.  I bet 90% of the people don't even know why it's there at all.

From my understanding, IRC runs over TCP, which does have error detection.

(20/04/2011 05:08 AM)Assassinator Wrote:  ]
But yeah, wee're really going off topic.  The main reason is file integrity checking, I think wee both agree with that.

Word.

(20/04/2011 05:20 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  Also, some search engines suck and try to find keyword matches, so if you only want a particular file, and you search the name, it will return results matching any word in the name.  Won't happen with a hash.

Even when you use quotation marks?

(20/04/2011 05:20 AM)ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:  

(20/04/2011 05:08 AM)Assassinator Wrote:  But that will be a waste of effort.  Because only the computer is ever going to read the segment ID anyway, no point in making it sensible.

There is as you may need to put in segment IDs, but not much.

Why would you ever need to mess with segment IDs yourself?  To create or manually decipher something encoded with ordered chapters?  First is a copy paste operation, second is a ctrl+f operation, how readable the ID is doesn't matter too much in both cases.  (Besides, people who are doing such things shouldn't need to be accommodated for).

(20/04/2011 07:07 AM)ProperBritish Wrote:  i don't keep up with how "famous" sub groups are :/

It's surprising you don't know Static Subs and know about Strike Subs.  Strike Subs subbed like 3 shows or something, back then (is dead now).  Static subs have been active for over 1/2 a decade, and pretty much always sub something every season.

(20/04/2011 07:07 AM)ProperBritish Wrote:  I have subbed yes, but i don't anymore... way too time consuming. I'd only really sub an anime i didnt want to watch now, i didnt like skimming through what i was about to watch to time subs. Ruined the surprise of the anime.

What group?