Endless Paradigm

Assassinator Wrote:

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:Never heard of it. >_>

IMO a good anime.

Obviously I have heard of it.  I was just being a Goshi.

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:Obviously I have heard of it.  I was just being a Goshi.

Watched it? or just heard.

Lunar Legend Tsukihime is by no means terrible however when you do compare it to the visual novel its pretty much inferior to it in every single way possible.

The artwork is uglier and the story has been changed considerably. Also once you know what Aoko is like in Melty Blood, you can't take the adaption of Aoko in the anime seriously =/

Also I've played all routes except the Hisui and Kohaku routes (I'm going through Hisui's route though) and there's significant changes which I would list but I don't feel like -_-;

Also lets us not forget, the characters look really ugly in the anime.

Goshi Wrote:Lunar Legend Tsukihime is by no means terrible however when you do compare it to the visual novel its pretty much inferior to it in every single way possible.

The artwork is uglier and the story has been changed considerably. Also once you know what Aoko is like in Melty Blood, you can't take the adaption of Aoko in the anime seriously =/

I'm talking about rating the anime as an anime. Like the 1st time u watched it, before seeing the visual novel. (I'm assuming u saw the anime before the visual novel, correct me otherwise) Comparison is not a good way to rate something.

And inferior in every single way? They are on different medium, so it's hard to make such conclusion, as different media needs different qualities. Rating an anime, u need to take into consideration also of the animation quality, music, other factors, and the storyline has to be looked at in the light that things WILL need to be cut out. Rating a visual novel, well, i don't know, but u can't really compare anime and visual novel.

Inferior in terms of storyline in every single way? yes... still no, solely because of the ero parts. The "every single way" is a hard goal to hit. IMO the visual novel would've been so much better without them, they screw over a completely good story. Nasu has a dirty mind... (To anyone who plans on reading the visual novel, please use the non ero patch. No, u don't want to see it. Not cool. Don't say i didn't warn u.)

If there wasn't any ero parts, then yes, i would say too that the visual novel has a strictly better storyline, but that's not unexpected, it is the original, and has room to cover a lot more stuff.

Goshi Wrote:Also I've played all routes except the Hisui and Kohaku routes (I'm going through Hisui's route though) and there's significant changes which I would list but I don't feel like -_-;

Also lets us not forget, the characters look really ugly in the anime.

It's been some time since i read the visual novel. Even longer since i watched the anime. The only major changes i clearly remember is the 1st encounter, and Nero's fight. That's not including stuff left out, as that is not changing the storyline. There are stuff added in as well, but if they "go with the flow" that's not really changing the story line either. Anyways, if they are very significant changes, like the 1st encounter, I probably would've remembered, so the changes are probably not very major.

Yes, it would've been a lot cooler if Nero's fight played out like it did in the visual novel, but that's again comparing to the visual novel, and can only be seen as a bad when comparing with the visual novel. For these who don't see the visual novel, it's fine. Problems of not being as good because something was changed from the storyline of the visual novel are non-existant without the knowledge of what happens in the visual novel, so in rating Tsukihime as an anime, wee shouldn't really take them into account.

Charactors don't look the best... well, true. But the Tsukihime visual novel charactors looked bad as well. I prefer the FSN visual novel charactors way more.

On the other hand, FSN was more faithful to the source, but i didn't like FSN that much. Mainly because of the flaws, and stuff that leaves u in the dark going "did i miss a few episodes (worth of information)?"... And the dragon made me "double you tee eff, lol", but i'd less want to see in graphical detail of what really happens, so the dragon's all cool.

Quote:If there wasn't any ero parts

The game's main purpose was to improve the sales. The translation patch has a non-ero version anyway but the text still hints towards them anyway. Kohaku's storyline in particular. There was a work-safe port of FSN though but correct me if I'm wrong.

Hey, hold on... this is a thread about Elfen Lied! D=<

Assassinator Wrote:

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:Obviously I have heard of it.  I was just being a Goshi.

Watched it? or just heard.

Heard, mainly from you...

amzing how this began as discussion about elfen lied

technically this does link to how anime removes plot from mangas

books that become films

i read eragon the watched the film
the only link between the 2 is the name and the dragon

Manga doesn't move. 'nuff said.

Goshi Wrote:The game's [ero's] main purpose was to improve the sales. The translation patch has a non-ero version anyway but the text still hints towards them anyway. Kohaku's storyline in particular. There was a work-safe port of FSN though but correct me if I'm wrong.

Improve sales... But really, if people want to see the ero that much, they should just go download some hershey kisses or something, buying a visual novel is probably the most roundabout and expensive way to do it. I doubt many people buy visual novels for the ero anyways. And once your company is popular, any future releases won't even need it any more, cause the fans will buy regardless. And including that ero also makes the product restricted to younger audiences, so that will have a negative sales reducing effect. poo poo ones may need the ero to draw people in, but if ur product is good, the ero will only reduce sales, not increase. If something like final fantasy decided to have hershey kisses in it, it would loose sales. Clannad didn't have ero, and i think in one of the ratings, ripped everything. FSN started in a good position, with strong backing, really didn't need it for sales purpose. IMO it's more related to tradition than to improving sales counts. And the fact that Nasu has a dirty mind.

Worksafe port of FSN? u mean Realto Nua, but that's on the PS2, and thus will never be fan translated. I read somewhere it uses the dragon as well, like in the anime. But I'm pretty sure Mirror Moon is going to make a worksafe version, i remember someone saying it.

Seems like u made an account in Beast's Lair. One day i was bored and looking thru some random threads there, saw that familiar sig of yours, then looked at the username.

_VEndeTta Wrote:Manga doesn't move. 'nuff said.

Going with the flow, it doesn't have color either. :mdr: ^.^

Lets start an anime vs manga poll.

Assassinator Wrote:

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:Obviously I have heard of it.  I was just being a Goshi.

Watched it? or just heard.

You need to read a little bit closer :p