05/09/2013, 10:53 AM
I like both but I use Unix mostly I like both but I use Unix mostly05/09/2013, 01:14 PM
Windows. Too much of what I do requires it, and using something like WINE doesn't cut it.
In general, I do prefer Windows overall. Probably because of massive software support it receives.
Linux is good if you want to learn the workings of an operating system and have more control. Great if you're going into an IT field. Especially if you want to do anything server based. Most the web runs on it.
But to the general user, Linux is just there to say "I is l33t guiz, I can Linux".
I'll never switch to Mac. Somethings it does so simple, other things (more so in an Enterprise environment) it's a mess. And because of the simplicity, it makes the average user stupid.
In general, I do prefer Windows overall. Probably because of massive software support it receives.
Linux is good if you want to learn the workings of an operating system and have more control. Great if you're going into an IT field. Especially if you want to do anything server based. Most the web runs on it.
But to the general user, Linux is just there to say "I is l33t guiz, I can Linux".
I'll never switch to Mac. Somethings it does so simple, other things (more so in an Enterprise environment) it's a mess. And because of the simplicity, it makes the average user stupid.
05/09/2013, 01:44 PM
Linux, because it's easier to use than Windows. Anything and everything can be done from a terminal a lot more efficiently than through a clunky UI. Using hotkeys along with one liners streamlines so much as well. Even gaming isn't an excuse to stay on Windows these days. NTFS is a God awful file system, the end user barely has any control on Windows, I don't have to uncheck toolbar installers on Linux, the only concerning malware for Linux and BSD is NetWire (which hardly anyone has access to), and if something breaks, I can properly find the issue and resolve it rather than dealing with the idiotic system that is Windows Error Reporting. Also, Linux isn't UNIX. It's a Sys-V clone.
05/09/2013, 02:01 PM
This is just one of those "your opinion" answers. Unfortunately I'm with Kuu on this one, I'd probably stay in linux if it had commercial support (relevant to myself like office/photoshop/VIDEO GAMES) but that just undermines what the whole idea of free software linux (I know there are commercial products, but most desktop linux OS's are based around the free principle) is about anyway. Yeah, I'm probably getting buttfudgeed by the companies but unfortunately commercial software sometimes does things better than our free alternatives.
As for Windows being a clusterfudge...it is, but that doesn't mean you can learn your way around the operating system to tune it. So far I've been using it in a pseudo-unix/gnutools/whateverencompassestheshell environment by doing my file operations and other spoon with powershell. It's nice, not a lot of people like it, but it seems to be a suitable replacement for a bash shell that I sorely miss from linux.
If anything, you can pull ideas from linux and see if you can apply them in windows, I'm doing that effectively so far.
What it really boils down to is that you can really get either operating system to do what you want if you just have an open mind to learn. So it'll be better or worse depending on your knowledge. Learn your tools!
Apologies to the linux gurus for my terminology, I can never follow it correctly :/
If I have to make a closing statement though, you may want to support the linux distros just because they're free. The last thing you need is for someone to put a pricetag on things that you use to get on with your life in the digital age.
As for Windows being a clusterfudge...it is, but that doesn't mean you can learn your way around the operating system to tune it. So far I've been using it in a pseudo-unix/gnutools/whateverencompassestheshell environment by doing my file operations and other spoon with powershell. It's nice, not a lot of people like it, but it seems to be a suitable replacement for a bash shell that I sorely miss from linux.
If anything, you can pull ideas from linux and see if you can apply them in windows, I'm doing that effectively so far.
What it really boils down to is that you can really get either operating system to do what you want if you just have an open mind to learn. So it'll be better or worse depending on your knowledge. Learn your tools!
Apologies to the linux gurus for my terminology, I can never follow it correctly :/
If I have to make a closing statement though, you may want to support the linux distros just because they're free. The last thing you need is for someone to put a pricetag on things that you use to get on with your life in the digital age.
05/09/2013, 02:12 PM
I suggest using Cygwin over Powershell. Where Linux lacks in commercial support, it makes up for with free alternatives. Now that Steam is on Linux, new games are hitting it just about every day. Games and other software also aren't that tedious to get working in WINE if you know what you're doing. Also, I still can't swap out the NT kernel for a custom one. That's another area where Windows fails. It's the only system you can't run a custom kernel on (and I don't want to get into it about the more obscure, ReactOS spin offs).
05/09/2013, 02:17 PM
Joomy Wrote: [ -> ]I suggest using Cygwin over Powershell. Where Linux lacks in commercial support, it makes up for with free alternatives. Now that Steam is on Linux, new games are hitting it just about every day. Games and other software also aren't that tedious to get working in WINE if you know what you're doing. Also, I still can't swap out the NT kernel for a custom one. That's another area where Windows fails. It's the only system you can't run a custom kernel on (and I don't want to get into it about the more obscure, ReactOS spin offs).
Yeah, cygwin is a bitch to update packages for though. Then again, it may just be that I've been too lazy to find a better alternative to the GUI package updater. I like to lean towards powershell just for the fact it's a windows tool, so it'll probably be able to interact better with the operating system than an emulation that is trying to be shoehorned into the windows system.
05/09/2013, 02:20 PM
I just threw "setup.exe" in C:\cygwin. Any time it needs an update, I just run it. It should do everything for you. And it's not emulation. Cygwin sets up an actual POSIX compliant environment.
05/09/2013, 02:33 PM
Joomy Wrote: [ -> ]I just threw "setup.exe" in C:\cygwin. Any time it needs an update, I just run it. It should do everything for you. And it's not emulation. Cygwin sets up an actual POSIX compliant environment.
Woops, this is why I should stay away from assumptions, thanks jooms for pointing that out. I guess the thing that I was getting at was this part of an answer on stack overflow
Quote:My original intent was to include a set of Unix tools in Windows and be done with it (a number of us on the team have deep Unix backgrounds and a healthy dose of respect for that community.) What I found was that this didn't really help much. The reason for that is that awk/grep/said don't work against COM, WMI, ADSI, the Registry, the cert store, etc, etc. In other words, UNIX is an entire ecosystem self-tuned around text files. As such, text processing tools are effectively management tools. Windows is a completely different ecosystem self-tuned around APIs and Objects. That's why wee invented PowerShell.
What I think you'll find is that there will be lots of occasions when text-processing won't get you what you want on Windows. At that point, you'll want to pick up PowerShell. NOTE - it is not an all or nothing deal. Within PowerShell, you can call out to your Unix tools (and use their text process or PowerShell's text processing). Also you can call PowerShell from your Unix tools and get text.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/57362...on-windows
05/09/2013, 03:54 PM
Mac 4 lyfe
05/09/2013, 05:48 PM
eKusoshisutU «-- the lone mac user
Mac has alot of probals though like that one thing I forgot what it was but when some posts it on a irc or something it crashes the mac :P
Plus its apple.
Mac has alot of probals though like that one thing I forgot what it was but when some posts it on a irc or something it crashes the mac :P
Plus its apple.