Endless Paradigm

During the whole Conclave + Mendoi = Menclave thing, Kiss Dum was lost.

Now you have these Mendoan people trying to sub it for the last 2 years, moving slower than AonE, and using the English of a grade 5 graduate.

I wouldn't be surprised if I found a line in their subtitles that read "This are the way wee ha5 to do it!".

Seriously.

It was a decent show. Way better then a lot of the stuff groups are releasing right now. But the good groups are all taking too many projects as it is right now to keep up with current shows that it's hard for them to go back. And it doesn't look like it's getting an R1 release anytime soon.


This is not a discussion on the anime, it's about how to get it back into the hands of a real fansub group again

Yeah, hate the groups which really don't know what they're doing.


I never actually watched anything from Mendoan, but some of these groups I look at their encoding, and typesetting... and tell myself to remember that name, and to never get anything from them again. Nah mate, that's not how you encode, my sister (with virtually no encoding knowledge) could do it better with a 1-click encode GUI.

They're releases are un-encoded to as far as my knowledge goes. They are just taking a RAW release, muxing in their subs, and releasing it.

Kuu Wrote:They're releases are un-encoded to as far as my knowledge goes. They are just taking a RAW release, muxing in their subs, and releasing it.

The raw muxes aren't like THAT bad actually. Raws aren't the most efficiently encoded files in the world, but they won't give you eye cancer.

The really bad stuff happen when the "encoders" think they know wtf they're doing, but actually don't know poo poo.

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Here's some examples, from 1 single anime. (Best save pics down onto your HDD, and look at them there. The web browser seems to distort them a bit)

WTF blur + Upsize (DVD Source » 720p)
What it's supposed to be. [This is from another fansub group (Sensei once tried to make a group), never released (I was encoding for them, so my encode).] Resized 720x480 » 853x480 for this comparison (was anamorphic soft-resize in the encode).

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I don't even know what to say for this one... The raws definitely aren't like that. See the next pic below.
What it's supposed to be like. A superior encode by another group (who actually knows how to encode... and it was a never-heard-of-before group too).

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I heard lines are evil, and must be exterminated at all costs, amirite? amirite? amirite?



AND on top of that, all of these encodes, besides for looking like poo poo, are also wrongly decimated (that is, wrong fps), so they don't even play smoothly, and will jutter.

I mean seriously, I'd watch remuxed raws anyday over that encoderfail. I bet my sister, using a 1-click-GUI, can encode better than their "encoders". Srsly "encoders", give up encoding, muxing raws is much easier, and also gives better results.

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So if you want to download Sekirei, download the Titanium version. The rest all suck donkey. (Or the new group, if Sensei ever bothers to time and typeset the rest of the shit. If it ever does, I can promise you a decent encode though.)

EDIT: fixed broken links

Problem with using a direct RAW is the load on the computer. Modern computers shouldn't have a problem, but there are still people clining to their P4's lol

LOL the Sekirei encode looks like Chihiro's fail.

Kuu Wrote:Problem with using a direct RAW is the load on the computer. Modern computers shouldn't have a problem, but there are still people clining to their P4's lol

You mean from the high bitrate? Shouldn't be that hard. IMO a P4 @ 3GHz should be able to play all of them (besides for the 1080 stuff). My old 1.6GHz Sempron I used in the past can play pretty much all the 720p anime vids I downloaded (using CoreAVC).

Oh, and I'm not saying everyone should go mux raws instead of encoding. Good encoders can output stuff way better (in terms of picture quality and size efficiency) that the raws, but bad encoders who spits out absolute poo poo.... I think raws win.

Kuu Wrote:LOL the Sekirei encode looks like Chihiro's fail.

The bottom 2 are Chihiro. The 1st one was Musubi-Weib. Musibi-Weib also had the super smart idea of making a 5.1 surround audio track when the DVDs came with only 2 channel audio. "I has 720p DVDRip with 5.1 surround sound. Has to be better, amirite? amirite? amirite?".... Like lolwut?

Supposedly, I heard from people that Chihiro's become better these days. I personally haven't watched anything from them since Sekirei, so I can't verify that myself.

Kuu Wrote:But the good groups are all taking too many projects as it is right now to keep up with current shows that it's hard for them to go back.

Which is sad... really.. and plain stupid... this has been a growing commonality, too...