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SchmilK Wrote:
Assassinator Wrote:AVI is just about the weakest container still in use. It carries XviD with the help of hacks, and pretty much doesn't have any of the features the newer containers (hell, every other container in use) has, like chapters, multiple audio streams, embedding of subtitle stream, etc. AVI needs to R.I.P.

That's too many features for a video file...
i just double click and enjoy.  :(

disregard my comments..im just trying to get my post count up :P
Eh, I agree with you really.  VLC is fine for most content.  Unless you're watching foreign content, you're unlikely to get more than one audio/video stream or any subtitles.

AVI does look like it's dying out - MKV and MP4 appear to be the successors of AVI (I personally think MP4 will "win" since it has a lot of commercial backing, but MKV has an amazing amount of support right now).  VLC should play most, if not all, MP4s fine and the majority of "normal" MKVs without issue.


GOM and KMP (and MPC-HC) are better players than VLC, but if you're happy with one, why change?
It's indeed a shame to see VLC go back as it has, this bad work on MKV has really, truely tarnished its Rep amoungst Anime Fans (not that it wasn't already).

Oh well...

I've learnt to love both VLC and MPC-HC... cause VLC does the rest better (on slower machines)
I never even wanted to use VLC.
Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:It's indeed a shame to see VLC go back as it has, this bad work on MKV has really, truely tarnished its Rep amoungst Anime Fans (not that it wasn't already).

I use VLC for music, MPC for video. Weird, but that's what I've done since like forever.

And it's more the (use to be) lack of proper support for softsub rather than for MKV.

Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:Oh well...

I've learnt to love both VLC and MPC-HC... cause VLC does the rest better (on slower machines)

VLC shouldn't be (significantly) faster than FFDShow (what MPC and everything else uses). They both use the same thing to decode (libavcodec)...

Try CoreAVC. Is about 30-40% faster on H.264 from my experience. (I'm assuming you're talking about H.264. if your comp is lagging on XviD, you need an upgrade more than anything).
Assassinator Wrote:
Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:It's indeed a shame to see VLC go back as it has, this bad work on MKV has really, truely tarnished its Rep amoungst Anime Fans (not that it wasn't already).

I use VLC for music, MPC for video. Weird, but that's what I've done since like forever.

And it's more the (use to be) lack of proper support for softsub rather than for MKV.

Senseito URΩBΩROS Wrote:Oh well...

I've learnt to love both VLC and MPC-HC... cause VLC does the rest better (on slower machines)

VLC shouldn't be (significantly) faster than FFDShow (what MPC and everything else uses). They both use the same thing to decode (libavcodec)...

Try CoreAVC. Is about 30-40% faster on H.264 from my experience. (I'm assuming you're talking about H.264. if your comp is lagging on XviD, you need an upgrade more than anything).

CoreAVC is ideal for watching HD stuff on slower computers. For a little faster PCs, XBMC is very good.

But essentially speaking, what sets apart some players is their native support for popular as well as obscure formats. GOM, for instance (I don't use other players, so can't comment) has an inbuilt codec for all the popular formats, without needing an extra codec pack. I think that is the way, most newer players will go.

Bottom line is that with proper codecs, most modern players are practically same.
Ive always used VLC, and it does have a little problems, but the main one is rendering the anime subs Erk So i started using mpc.
feinicks Wrote:But essentially speaking, what sets apart some players is their native support for popular as well as obscure formats. GOM, for instance (I don't use other players, so can't comment) has an inbuilt codec for all the popular formats, without needing an extra codec pack. I think that is the way, most newer players will go.

If you want to look at it that way, then MPlayer > all. Plays pretty much everything out of the box.
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