Endless Paradigm

http://www.cccp-project.net/

...check out the Wiki and you'll see what I mean ;)


ANYWAY, yeah toons/anime compresses nice and good hey ;) and yeah the blocking-in-the-dark is always an issue when trying to get a good compression, but it was really obvious on GOMEncoder for some reason :S apart from that, it created fully compliant Main@L3 AVC videos very similar to the TMPGEnc output :)

That's a very good encoding speed too. VERY good compared to me. My encoding speed on this piece of poo poo is about  x1.8 movie length lol. But im encoding at 640x480, I've noticed that lower resolutions [eg 480x272] encode much faster than I expected. But AVC is a very complex codec you got to remember, it's the "sequal" to the DivX/XviD/3vix/etcetera formats [see this article] and NOBODY has anywhere near good enough encoding speed, im surprised you got close to x1.0!!!!

Subtitles? To burn in subtitles in TMPGEnc, you have to
1) Click on "Edit" under source tab for the video clip in the list u want subs for
2) "Filters" tab
3) For somereason the subtitle filter isn't in the list. As if! Bottom left corner, "Edit Filter List" and the Subtitles one should be on the right - select it and press Add then OK.
4) Now it should be in the list. Tick 'Enable' in there. Down the bottom right, "Edit Menu" > "Import subtitles" and in the browse dialog you can change the filetype to ".SRT" files :) I hope that's the right format!!! If you need a subtitle converter there are plenty online but lemme kno if u can't find one. I think VOBSub can convert between SRT and others....? Dunno

Anyway I might share some of my saved profiles soon hey [as templates for tmpgenc4], but I will also try the settings you tried there! Still testing though :P Cheers :)

bboy_sonik Wrote:Yeah i checked it out my source was a douche, it uses the MainConcept technology to encode MPEG-4 ISO/AVC which did have non-compliency problems in the past but has been long fixed and is now nice and good. Failing to find a "better" encoder - by that I mean one can encode higher quality than others, speed aint an issue. In my own tests, I used the exact same options in the TMPGEnc/MainConcept encoder and the x264 one, but MainConcept encode seemed to handle super-high motion/action better. I think that might be because TMPGEnc has better 'scene change detection' though and that's not a codec thing its the VME technology in TMPGEnc that handles that but x264 is definately better than every other commercial AVC encoder I've tried! Its actually a little faster than what im using :) but quality is more important to me.

bboy_sonik Wrote:Well I want the HIGHEST quality and have ZERO care about encoding speed so if anyone has any tips on how to "encode slower" let me know! I am using 2-pass VBR, and my "Medium Quality" profile is 1024kbps average and 2048kbps max, Motion Search Range I have changed from 64 to 256 [good?]

bboy_sonik Wrote:Also I know that it REALLY depends on the source or what is actually 'in' the video, as to the "best" settings to use... but I'm just trying to get a rough idea here. Will try some more personal tests and comparisons tonight. Thanks guys :)

EDIT: I know I said HIGHEST quality but space is also important to me as I only have a 2GB stick and don't have a massive harddisk either [320GB] hence why i decided to use H.264 instead of DivX - to get higher quality at lower bitrates ;)

x264 --crf 23 --level 3 --partitions all --me umh --subme 9 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --direct auto --bframes 8 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --weightb --trellis 1 --no-psnr --no-ssim -o out.264 in.avs

(to use that, make a file named "in.avs" with the following contents:

DirectShowSource("myvideo.avi")
Lanczos4Resize(480,272)
ConvertToYV12()

)
The above command should give reasonable results without slowing the encode to a crawl.  If you want to use higher (slower) settings though, just say so.
After you do the above, multiplex the .264 file into an MP4 container (use something like YAMB to do this) and playback the video to see if you like it.  To include the audio stream, demux it and transcode it with the Nero AAC encoder (I prefer the MediaCoder GUI) - use LC-AAC, quality set to 0.20.

bboy_sonik Wrote:- It uses the term "Keyframe" under the AVC encoder. AVC video doesn't have keyframes, only ASP video does [DivX, XviD, etc] which is the predecessor to AVC. AVC takes the IBP frames and GOP length to make psuedo keyframes

bboy_sonik Wrote:- The AAC encoder is confusing, what the hell is Quality 30 @ 192kbps compared to Quality 100 @ 192kbps???

bboy_sonik Wrote:- Doesn't support 640x480 with a pixel ratio of 16:9 which is what I REALLY LIKE TO USE. Why? It's a good high resolution, and even though its a 4:3 resolution any display that has a 16:9 screen will draw it properly without having to press "screen mode" or "zoom" on the TV/console, and anything that Isn't 4:3 will still draw in letterbox [the black bars]. It's extremely handy.

bboy_sonik Wrote:- Fastforwarding and rewinding with my player and decoder [Media Player Classic Homecinema, Cyberlink H.264 decoder with nVidia PureVideo SD/HD GPU Acceleration] didn't work. I've experienced this with other MP4 encoders when trying to play them on the PC.

bboy_sonik Wrote:AFTER ANALYSING with AVInaptic i found that the GOM Encoder outputs an "Apple QuickTime movie" container as opposed to "MP4/MOV" container. Odd.

blessedhands Wrote:Xvid4PSP has audio sync Issue. i don't know if im the only one experiencing it though.

bboy_sonik Wrote:except when DirectShow Reader is used, then its just standard YUV Transcoding which is poo

bboy_sonik Wrote:I may have stumbled upon a potential method of the PSP recognizing a subtitle stream within an MP4 container, much like UMD videos. Chances are though that the PSP firmware doesn't physically have that capability [is the splitter/decoder module in the PSP for UMD Video the same as MSDuo video?] Hmmm I will investigate this and hack PRX's if needed...

bboy_sonik Wrote:Anyway, the encoder settings you posted are... not very good lol. I prefer bitrate based encoding personally. I will share some photo/video comparisons soon i think as well as profile details, and actually compare x264 and TMPGEnc too. There isn't any up-to-date articles on this online they are all old, but anyway its 1am but ill be doing this tomorrow :)

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:ok lets just settle this

if you want quality and an encoder that's free

use xvid4psp

or use what sensei uses MeGui

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:You probably don't have your settings configured properly.  x264 is also constantly updated.  A properly configured x264 should beat the MainConcept encoder.

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:I'm quite sure you will care about encoding speed.  On x264, "--me tesa --merange 64 --bframes 16 --b-adapt 2" will slow down even top of the line CPUs to a crawl.

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:Try an x264 command like this (use the latest build - rev999):

Code:

x264 --crf 23 --level 3 --partitions all --me umh --subme 9 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --direct auto --bframes 8 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --weightb --trellis 1 --no-psnr --no-ssim -o out.264 in.avs

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ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:PSP doesn't support anamorphic content anyway...

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:

bboy_sonik Wrote:except when DirectShow Reader is used, then its just standard YUV Transcoding which is poo

How is YUV bad?  H.264 uses YUV anyway.

bboy_sonik Wrote:P.S. Assassinator, your Sig is very cool! What's that from? I don't know much anime :)

Assassinator Wrote:level 3 doesn't support all the search partitions... Can't remember exact which ones it doesn't support, but P4x4 is definitely one of them.

Assassinator Wrote:Almost everything these days use YV12, (YUV with different chroma subsampling).

ZiNgA BuRgA Wrote:

Assassinator Wrote:Almost everything these days use YV12, (YUV with different chroma subsampling).

Didn't know that - thanks :P

bboy_sonik Wrote:Anamorphic? Umm... yeah it does work.... 640x480 AVC video, with 16:9 aspect ratio, it draws 100% correctly on my PSP and PC. No bars on the left or right side, and only black bars at top and bottom if needed. The PSP scales it down successfully to 480x* and the letterbox bars are perfect... I don't have to change the zoom or screenmode or anything on the PSP or PC it works straight away...

bboy_sonik Wrote:I'm just saying that YUV can be bad because grabbing the YUV output is the same as transcoding, it doesn't actually decode the frames > process > encode the frames it just "screenshot this frame, add that, screenshot next frame, add that" which is all very nice and good for speed but the GENERATION LOSS [artifacts caused by compressing already compressed content] becomes a problem here!

bboy_sonik Wrote:I'm just saying that YUV can be bad because grabbing the YUV output is the same as transcoding, it doesn't actually decode the frames > process > encode the frames it just "screenshot this frame, add that, screenshot next frame, add that" which is all very nice and good for speed but the GENERATION LOSS [artifacts caused by compressing already compressed content] becomes a problem here!

http://rapidshare.com/files/161102489/Max_Payne_-_Trailer.mp4

...and here is the profile/template for TMPGEnc 4.0 Xpress, as an attatchment. Extract this archive to your My Documents\TMPGEnc\TMPGEnc 4.0 XPress\Template\Export folder and it should appear in the "Output" list when starting a new project [this folder should already exist]. The only thing you SHOULD need to change is the bitrate [from 768 to a higher or lower number] and the ASPECT RATIO to 4:3 [from 16:9] if its not a letterbox source file.

Let me know what you think! Peace!

P.S. The original video was the 1080p H.264/AVC trailer and was about 98MB. Don't have a source sorry I can't remember! Slack I know...