MICk3Y Wrote:But now I know what happens D:
oh well, i knew zack was going to die throughout the time i was playing CC
see, in the first game he was some random guy that died; i was like "oh well" but once you get to know zack's story throughout CC and watch his epically epic death; then you're like nooooooooo
even though you know its coming....
Zach shouldnt have died!!!!!!! I was
when i finished FF:CC
demonchild Wrote:Well, I just finished Disc 1 after 16 hours of playing.. :p I'm catching onto the story between Crisis Core and Advent Children. One thing that did come up was Aeris. Wee all know. But, isn't Aeris supposed to be Aerith from Crisis Core since the ending of CC was the beginning of FF7? On top of that, you get the same limit break - Healing Wind, and they both were Ancients. Aren't they supposed to be the same person? Just wondering.
"Aeris" was a mis-pronunciation of Aerith wehn the game went worldwide. It happened as Japanese don't pronounce "th" as "th" in the name. They pronounce its Aeriss. same way sephiroth (
) is pronounced Sephirosu ("u" is silent). The Aerith in FFVII is just a doll look-alike, while the Aerith in AC and CC is a cute (even Hot) chick!
MICk3Y Wrote:Nooooooo!!! Why does everyone die?
Interestingly, in the initial draft of the game-script, the main characters were: Cloud, Sephiroth, Vincent, the Turks, Rufus Shin Ra, Barrett, Aerith and a couple of other.
NO ZACK, NO TIFA. Then one of the writers said that the story wasn't deep and suggested that Aerith die. So so Tifa was created to become clouds love interest after aerith went for a date in the Life stream. Similarly Zack was then created to give Cloud a dark past.
Tetris999 Wrote:MICk3Y Wrote:But now I know what happens D:
oh well, i knew zack was going to die throughout the time i was playing CC
see, in the first game he was some random guy that died; i was like "oh well" but once you get to know zack's story throughout CC and watch his epically epic death; then you're like nooooooooo
even though you know its coming....
Zack was a more appropriate hero than Cloud (who is GAY!)...
but at the end of the day (if wee didnt have the concept of "Good always wins over evil"), Sephiroth mopped his donkey, the floor and a dogs balls with Zack, Cloud, Genesis, ShinRa... EVERYONE!
Sephiroth!! (
)
feinicks Wrote:demonchild Wrote:Well, I just finished Disc 1 after 16 hours of playing.. :p I'm catching onto the story between Crisis Core and Advent Children. One thing that did come up was Aeris. Wee all know. But, isn't Aeris supposed to be Aerith from Crisis Core since the ending of CC was the beginning of FF7? On top of that, you get the same limit break - Healing Wind, and they both were Ancients. Aren't they supposed to be the same person? Just wondering.
"Aeris" was a mis-pronunciation of Aerith wehn the game went worldwide. It happened as Japanese don't pronounce "th" as "th" in the name. They pronounce its Aeriss. same way sephiroth () is pronounced Sephirosu ("u" is silent). The Aerith in FFVII is just a doll look-alike, while the Aerith in AC and CC is a cute (even Hot) chick!
MICk3Y Wrote:Nooooooo!!! Why does everyone die?
Interestingly, in the initial draft of the game-script, the main characters were: Cloud, Sephiroth, Vincent, the Turks, Rufus Shin Ra, Barrett, Aerith and a couple of other. NO ZACK, NO TIFA. Then one of the writers said that the story wasn't deep and suggested that Aerith die. So so Tifa was created to become clouds love interest after aerith went for a date in the Life stream. Similarly Zack was then created to give Cloud a dark past.
Tetris999 Wrote:MICk3Y Wrote:But now I know what happens D:
oh well, i knew zack was going to die throughout the time i was playing CC
see, in the first game he was some random guy that died; i was like "oh well" but once you get to know zack's story throughout CC and watch his epically epic death; then you're like nooooooooo
even though you know its coming....
Zack was a more appropriate hero than Cloud (who is GAY!)...
but at the end of the day (if wee didnt have the concept of "Good always wins over evil"), Sephiroth mopped his donkey, the floor and a dogs balls with Zack, Cloud, Genesis, ShinRa... EVERYONE!
Sephiroth!! ()
Stop spoiling what happens in FFVII!!!!!!
:no
Zach changes so much through out the game, especially when he fights genesis towards the end. I need to play FFVII!!!!!
Tetris999 Wrote:MICk3Y Wrote:But now I know what happens D:
oh well, i knew zack was going to die throughout the time i was playing CC
see, in the first game he was some random guy that died; i was like "oh well" but once you get to know zack's story throughout CC and watch his epically epic death; then you're like nooooooooo
even though you know its coming....
When i played it, i only played to when cloud gets off the train, that about it :/
MICk3Y Wrote:Tetris999 Wrote:MICk3Y Wrote:But now I know what happens D:
oh well, i knew zack was going to die throughout the time i was playing CC
see, in the first game he was some random guy that died; i was like "oh well" but once you get to know zack's story throughout CC and watch his epically epic death; then you're like nooooooooo
even though you know its coming....
When i played it, i only played to when cloud gets off the train, that about it :/
Good. Now you know that there's a Phoenix Down waiting for her.
feinicks Wrote:Zack was a more appropriate hero than Cloud (who is GAY!)...
but at the end of the day (if wee didnt have the concept of "Good always wins over evil"), Sephiroth mopped his donkey, the floor and a dogs balls with Zack, Cloud, Genesis, ShinRa... EVERYONE!
Sephiroth!! ()
Alright, now, everyone who has played both 7 and CC MUST agree that Zach is the true hero of the Final Fantasy 7 universe, correct? He took on, and beat, Sephiroth without anyone else helping him. Spoiler time
Anyways, what I really wish is that (and please keep the flaming to a minimum) they'd put out an updated release of FF7, with new graphics and everything, while leaving the battle mechanics and materia equipping and leveling system alone. They can even mess with the map, to make it have a different feel for FF7 fans. But the MAIN reason I want a re-release is
Im currently playing FFVII on the PSP, but havent seen anything about Zach dieing. Did I miss it or does it come up later??? Im in the Shinra building
Hellgiver Wrote:|-Anubis-| Wrote:ITS BEEN OVER A DECADE AND I CANNOT GET OVER AERIS' DEATH!
I still say they should have used a phoenix down on her!!!
hahahaha. oh god lmfao. good one hellgiver
and yea zach dies later
hah
Hellgiver Wrote:feinicks Wrote:Zack was a more appropriate hero than Cloud (who is GAY!)...
but at the end of the day (if wee didnt have the concept of "Good always wins over evil"), Sephiroth mopped his donkey, the floor and a dogs balls with Zack, Cloud, Genesis, ShinRa... EVERYONE!
Sephiroth!! ()
Alright, now, everyone who has played both 7 and CC MUST agree that Zach is the true hero of the Final Fantasy 7 universe, correct? He took on, and beat, Sephiroth without anyone else helping him. Spoiler time
Read the note at the bottom...
Hellgiver Wrote:He also is the reason Cloud was at all competent in FF7. After their memories got fused, as well as some of Zach's ability and even the buster sword was given to Cloud, Cloud was actually able to do something in FF7. This is all Zach's influence.
well yea.. it was pure luck that Cloud managed to get a hit against sephy. and he was high on adrenaline and had the luck that sephy was treating him like a worthless piece of spoon that didnt require attention and ended up getting overwhelmed (more like surprised) and then jumped into the lifestream, and everyone assumed tht cloud actually finished him off, causing Hojo to take interest in Cloud and ijkecting him with Jenova cells whose sole objective is to survive. And so when Cloud was suffering from mako overdoes and on the verge of mental breakdown, the cells adapted to infuse Zack's personality (the strongest person around Cloud at the moment) and adapted Clouds memory of Zack as his own, including physical ability (which wee can assume that Zack might have shown to Cloud, being a show off)...
Hence Cloud Strife, SOLDIER 1st Class.
Hellgiver Wrote:Anyways, what I really wish is that (and please keep the flaming to a minimum) they'd put out an updated release of FF7, with new graphics and everything, while leaving the battle mechanics and materia equipping and leveling system alone. They can even mess with the map, to make it have a different feel for FF7 fans.
Hellgiver Wrote:I really didn't like the final battle vs Sephiroth. The one-winged angel battle was... okay... I'd prefer a battle of just human Sephiroth vs the party. If not that, then human Sephiroth vs Cloud at the end, without the bullchocolate One Hit KO from omnislash (or counter attack if it is equipped) finishing him in one move. I want to see an actual bad donkey fight. Unless of course it was their intent to make Sephiroth remain the most bad donkey character who never lost a one on one battle except against Zach. In which case, leaving FF7 alone would be alright.
you must understand one thing, in a videogame (or a fairy tale or a movie) the good always has to win, unless the player's character is actually a villain.. Sephy lost against Zack in the videogame, cause that is how that particular level will be completed. If you read the novels or background story check, you will understand that Zack had his donkey kicked BIG TIME... he apparently couldnt even touch sephiroth. Sephiroth did not kill him as he had no particular reason (and he was not yet that insane, or probably had a liking for Zack, he being a good friend). whatever the reason, if sephiroth is supposed to be the greatest fighter ever, he could have handled Zack, who wasn't even at his max by the time he fought Sephiroth (the first time)...
I agree howver, that they need to add better fight sequences, but I don't think it will remain story friendly then..
take the example of Advent children... sephiroth is clearly going to win cause Cloud is all huff and puff, while sephiroth might be in the park! Then Sephy taunts, cloud flares up and SO WHAT? Just cause Cloud flares up, Sephiroth loses his senses and can't fight off Omnislash? the man who took on Genesis, Angeal Zack, and a thousands of other monsters and bosses (and often , together!) froze still!
Nonsense.. but then they had to end the movie, keep to the concept and make it look awesome!~